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on 12/13/02 1:39 PM, flw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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>> The NY times did not use the word "execute" in their article - you did.
>
> I did not change a word in the article. I stated that in the Subject line.

>


Yes - and I said it was a funny stance from someone who has expressed such
outrage at border violations in the past

> Perhaps you prefer the word 'murder'?

I prefer "killing", as that probably covers both the action and the intent.



>> So you think any country should allow people to cross their borders
> wherever
>> they want, without legal papers, at closed points of the border?
> Especially
>> a country that has a history of terrorists sneaking across the border to
>> kill schoolchildren and shoppers?
>
> I don't think 'illegal' border crossing calls for the death penalty for
> unemployed job seekers.


I agree 100 %






>Whether a country has been subjected to
> bloody acts in revenge for that countries' bloody acts is irrelevant
> to the immoral shooting of job seekers.

It may not change the morality, but it provides a context for the actions.





>
> I don't think any normal person would disagree with the above -
> especially since the illegal border crossers are rewarded with
> jobs by the so called victims if they make it across.


I don't disagree with the above. I just always find people whose high morals
change from situation to situation fascinating.


>
>> You disingenuousness may seem cute to you, it seems idiotic to me.
>
> Perhaps you are not a normal person (see above).OTOH perhaps
> you believe in 'collective punishment' - an old Nazi technique and
> also apparently the current policy of the US.


The disingenuousness of course was in pretending I was commenting on the
article rather than my perception of hypocrisy in your stance.

As to any belief in collective punishment I have, we both know I have never
said anything that could be interpreted even remotely that way. It's a cheap
attack, based on some misguided stereotype I suppose. But I guess it works
in place of substance.



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