-Caveat Lector- MJ 'Need' -- real or imaginary -- has NOTHING to do with equity. Thew The sad thing is that you don't see that as the problem. MJ That a WORD means what it states and not something else?
Thew We were not discussing the WORD equitable, until I had to explain to you carefully that the word was not synonymous with Equal. (that's why we have 2 different words.) MJ I made no claim that equitable was synonymous with equal. Thew We were discussing behaviors of the state - and its responsibility. MJ A LEGITIMATE State is a collective application of the individual's right to his own life. Any other 'State' merely provides advantage to some at the expense of others. I am not certain what 'responsibilities' you imagine apply, but .... Thew It is not JUST or FAIR (equitable) that a greater burden is placed on those who can least shoulder it, while those who can best do so, use their resources to ensure they do not have to, while the same resources could be used more EQUITABLY, especially in the name of some fictional SAMENESS (equality), that is really just a cover for lack of compassion for the other, or the society they are riding atop. MJ Nonsense. I have no problem with YOU voluntarily providing YOUR resources to those YOU deem in need. I do, however, have a problem with YOU *FORCING* me to provide MY resources to those YOU deem in need. Of course you need your bifurcation in order to hide your lust for enslavement and theft. What is not JUST or FAIR (equitable) is that a greater burden is placed on some, while others are exempted. ALL individuals should be treated EQUAL(ly) by Government. This is the ONLY method that is EQUITABLE. After all one is supposed to have EQUALITY under the law. Thew Compassion for others is one of the few legitimate uses of government I can imagine. MJ Stealing from some citizens is not compassion. Thew We can do better that coldhearted slavery to the bottom line - as a nation, as individuals, and as humanity. MJ Continuing with your bifurcation ... Thew Equal is not equitable. eq·ui·ta·ble Marked by or having equity; just and impartial. e·qual Having the same quantity, measure, or value as another. MJ If Joe and Steve pay $1 in taxes, their burden is EQUAL. The Government REQUIRING Joe and Steve pay $1 in taxes is EQUITABLE. If Joe pays $1 and Steve pays $2, their burden is UNequal. The Government REQUIRING Joe to pay $1 and Steve pay $2 in taxes is INequitable. Regard$, --MJ When a private enterprise fails, it is closed down. When a government enterprise fails, it is expanded. -- Milton Friedman <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om