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I think this is the solution to the pope vs. president squabble. Let them
compete to design Babylon II at the Babylon Restoration Project site. We
will then see who knows more about designing a "Culture of Life" for this
world. BTW, "Culture of Life", an expression coined by Life Gazette in the
1980's, has been used by both pope and president in their speeches.

POC

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Yuriy Kirienko wrote:

> "Thus Babylon II will be that "shining city" which Steve Forbes talked about
> in his presidential campaigns...the city which America in bondage to a
> Regime of Bastards will never build." See below.
>
> Gentlemen:
>
> Though I am extremely short on time I will attempt to make the series of
> short translations from the summary on the "new" viewing of European history
> published in the book of G.B. Nosovskiy and A.T. Fomenko in the chapter 11
> of their book "Russia-Orda on the pages of Biblical books." Moscow: Anvik
> 1998. ISBN 5-89669-004-5.
>
> I will request Fomenko for permission to do that and I hope he will grant
> it. He already did so several years ago but I cannot find that permission.
> That translation would explain many things in the current behavior of the
> West towards the rest of the world and would show that the present behavior
> of the Western states and in particular of the US is the continuation of the
> centuries old policy of lying and subversion. That is how the rest of the
> known "legal" European history has been spinned.
>
> That lie-making underwrites the whole of the Western existence and finally
> brings its own destruction and decent of the world into the state of
> subhumanity predicted by Tocqueville to come in his classic book "Democracy
> in America." Standing on the all encompassing lie there is no way for the
> ordinary men to find the way out of the dead end. There is plentiful
> material in Russian on various topics that is of great interest to the
> capable of thinking Western individuals. But I alone cannot do the job.
>
> Once I addressed the subscribers for financial help in translation. One
> person from "Grom" answered me that he will be interested in soliciting
> funds for that purpose. I talked to the translators in Russia and tried to
> come back to that subscriber with the proposal. Regretfully my mail to him
> bounced.
>
> Yuriy Kirienko
>
>
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> Subject: [PERSIANS-JEWS-FLIES] Digest Number 73
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>
> This is ARMAGEDDON as General Scowcroft has called it; the APOCALYPSE as
> others have called it. But the WHITEHOUSE and U-S-A Congress have chosen the
> FATE OF THE WORLD!
>
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>       1. THE NECESSARY AND SUFFICIENT CONDITION FOR PEACE IS....
>            From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Message: 1
>    Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:53:19 -0800 (PST)
>    From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: THE NECESSARY AND SUFFICIENT CONDITION FOR PEACE IS....
>
> ...."SATURATING" IRAQ WITH UN: as General Allaire was quoted saying by the
> Ottawa Citizen a couple of days ago. At most, Iraq has a few box-cars of
> proscribed weapons buried in the desert but that is NO THREAT TO ANYONE as
> long as Iraq is saturated with UN. As for the 200,000 troops under the
> Trotskyite Bastard Regime who are now in the Gulf, remember what the French
> Foreign Minister said to CBC last night: US had 300,000 troops in Europe for
> 50 years during the Cold War. So this is not a big hardship for US to
> manage. And they could easily reduce that number to 100,000 or less as the
> PEACE PROCESS is proven further to work.
>
> There is even no need for interviews with Iraqi scientists or dredging up
> long defunct inventories. Consider Canada's new gun registry to see the
> problem. How many people who have had a long series of guns remember what
> guns they had 20 or 30 years ago? I can't even remember all the cars I've
> owned over the years. I was wondering the other day if I had ever bought a
> VW beetle...not sure. Elections BC requires keeping the source documents of
> registered parties like POC for only 5 years. Thus early POC documents have
> been destroyed. Lots of details of assets forgotten, lost. Ask Prime
> Minister Chretien about what keeps turning up at the bottom of the Ottawa
> River near Parliament Hill. Sometimes interesting artifacts of early
> Ottawa-Hull life are found for which there is no other record. Inventories
> are often lost to memory.
>
> But as for Iraq, SO WHAT? These exercises in interviewing scientists and
> playing inventory accountancy games are stupid diversions from the most
> important issue of all...the only really important issue:
>
> THE NECESSARY AND SUFFICIENT CONDITION FOR PEACE: SATURATING IRAQ WITH UN.
>
> POC
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:20:58 -0800 (PST)
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> Subject: [LOGES-DE-CORBEAUX] Regime of Bastards v Saddam's Regime of Peace
>
> CTV News clarified your position last night. You did not mean, Americans are
> bastards; but that this is a Regime of Bastards. Indeed it is and that
> Regime of Bastards with its puppet president keeps the American people,
> America-the-Good, in bondage. You of course know the famous De Toqueville
> quote, ie When America ceases to be good it will cease to be great.
>
> Bush et al offer war to the world and words as shallow as tele-evangelical
> and whitehouse-preacher lies to the American people. Where are the
> "faith-based public works" of Bush? When he echoed the statements of the
> pope (which had picked up on Life-Gazette's "Culture of Life" theme) Bush
> called for a "Culture of Life" in those words. What would it be like? What
> would just one model city in America-the-Good be like?
>
> Perhaps Iraq can tell the world...with your help. How about setting up
> "Carolyn's Restaurant" in Baghdad? Iraq's first cyber-cafe. And explicitly
> for the purpose of online discussions of Iraq's CITY OF PEACE. The French
> Foreign Minister in a CBC interview last night said that 90% of the world
> wants the UN to see this through to a peaceful resolution. Let people from
> 90% of the world populate Babylon II when it is built. With the oil embargo
> lifted, Iraq will have billions of dollars to pay for their relocation.
> Saudi Arabia's Jubail was a city-built-anew (albeit too expensive IMO) for
> 100,000. Kuwait, last I heard was planning a city-built-anew called Subia
> for 260,000. In the 1970's, 13 eminent architects from 13 countries designed
> the model village of PREVI, for Peru. One of those architects, Charles
> Correa, then went on to design a city-built-anew called New Bombay, for
> India. It had 250,000 people then;
> >1,000,000 today.
>
> The criterion for all ideas submitted through Carolyn's Restaurant?
> _______________ is a good feature because ____________________________
> Americans will be able to send you ideas on America-the-Good by email. The
> evil-doer president Bush will be chagrined, if indeed he is still
> puppet-du-jour after next year's election. But as an example which might be
> submitted by America-the-Good, consider the message I posted yesterday to
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. The DOE has announced that within 10 years
> it expects to have a pollution-free coal-electric generator. So how about a
> pollution-free oil-electric generator for Babylon II? Babylon II should
> surpass the Kyoto Protocol standards for the world.
>
> Thus Babylon II will be that "shining city" which Steve Forbes talked about
> in his presidential campaigns...the city which America in bondage to a
> Regime of Bastards will never build.
>
> "You can say anything you want...at Carolyn's restaurant...."
>
> Sung to the tune of "Alice's Restaurant".
>
> POC
>
> PS-Because of the new audio-video features online, you can even have your
> own micro-tv studio at Carolyn's Restaurant.
>
>
>
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