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-Caveat Lector- Debunking the "The Official Legend" -- Dick Eastman versus the "Urban Legends" pro-coverup Pentagon disinformation page (Barbara and David P. Mikkelson )------------------------------------------------------To: uk.politics.crime,uk.politics.parliament,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.politics.greens,alt.conspiracyRe: Pentagon frameup investigation is conclusive -- 9-11 was a frameup Here is all the proof a grand jury will need."Ed Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote> "Everyman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote> > Andy and the rest are empty talk.
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> I have to ask... did you read the arguments in the Urban Myths page?
> www.snopes2.com
I just did, Ed, just now, just for you. It stinks. Here, in detail, is why I say that:------The relevant "Urban Legends" page is this one:http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
The urban legends authors are full of little errors as well as big whopping lerrors that they MUST be aware are errors. And the error is all in favor of the coverup, what I call "the Official Legend" They claim
" notion that the Pentagon was not damaged by terrorists who hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and crashed it into the military office complex, but that the whole affair was staged by the U.S. government, has been promulgated by French author Thierry Meyssan in his book, The Frightening Fraud." This is wrong. It started long before that -- in early March 2002, by the French site: Hunt the Boeing.
Barbara and David P. Mikkelson then say: "Meyssan offers no real explanation for what did cause the extensive damage to the Pentagon, asserting only that Flight 77 did not exist, no plane crashed into the Pengaton, and that 'the American government is lying.' " Meyssan attributes the damage to a missile.
But note that urban legends is attacking the "no plane" theory. Not my "small plane" theory -- which is also known as the "Killer Jet and Decoy Boeing" theory.
Next, Barbara and David P. Mikkelson attack a straw-man "legend": that only the outer ring of the Pentagon was damaged. Of course no one is claiming this. I think they made this legend up. They dwell on this one for quite a while.
Then they tackle this straw man: "Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building? "
ANd how do Barbara and David P. Mikkelson respond? They simply repeat "THE BOUNCE LEGEND" AS IF IT IS TRUE -- WHICH IT IS NOT. They write: "the hijacked airliner dived so low as it approached the Pentagon that it actually hit the ground first, thereby dissipating much of the energy that might otherwise have caused more extensive damage to the building; nonetheless, as described by The New York Times, the plane still hit not "just the ground floor" but between the first and second floors."
Mostly they just repeat the "Official Legend" offering no evidence, merely telling "the legend:"
"The plane banked sharply and came in so low that it clipped light poles. It slammed into the side of the Pentagon at an estimated 350 miles per hour after first hitting the helipad. The plane penetrated the outer three rings of the building. The jet fuel exploded, which sent a fireball outward from the impact point. About 30 minutes after the crash, a cross-section of the building collapsed, but only after enough time had elapsed for rescue workers to evacuate all injured employees."
There is an error here. The killer jet did not get near the helipad which was north of the crash (and the plane came in from the southwest) -- although the helipad did get a shower of confetti debris (I say from the missile that was fired into the wall.) I find it a significant new datum that the wall collapsed (I say deliberately to close up the too-obviously too-small hole made by the missile and the killer jet) AFTER ALL RESCUES WERE MADE (and also during the moment when, at Rumsfeld's direction, all rescure and fire fighters were ordered back because another plane was rumored to be on the way -- AND THIS AFTER THE 4TH AIRLINER HAD CRASHED IN PENNSYLVANIA!! It was a ruse, to clear the area before knocking down that bothersome incriminating hole.
Another false statement by Barbara and David P. Mikkelson : "The collapse and roof fires left the inner courtyard visible from outside through a gaping hole." The killer jet only penetrated as far as the C-ring. The innermost ring was not breached at all.
Next question:
3) You'll remember that the aircraft only hit the ground floor of the Pentagon's first ring. Can you find debris of a Boeing 757-200 in this photograph?
Here is how Barbara and David P. Mikkelson explain the absense of Boeing 757 wreckage:
" ... since the airliner was full of jet fuel and was flown into thick, reinforced concrete walls at high speed, exploding in a fireball, any pieces of wreckage large enough to be identifiable in after-the-fact photographs taken from a few hundred feet away burned up in the intense fire that followed the crash (just as the planes flown into the World Trade Center towers burned up, and the intensity of their jet-fuel fires caused both towers to collapse)."
Yet there was no 50 tons of melted aluminum either -- and there should have been. The aluminum would not burn -- because its surface oxidizes immediately preventing oxygen from combining with aluminium atoms in combusion. The aluminum would have melted into a big puddle or else there would have been large pieces of debris. There were neither. Barbara and David P. Mikkelson just made that up.
Now here is what I found the most maddening claptrap of all. They actually point to the piece of a the outer skin from a Boeing 757 that was planted far off to the port side of where the plane hit. AND I HAVE SHOWN THAT THIS PIECE COULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE STARBOARD SIDE TO THAT LOCATION HUNDREDS OF FEET TO THE PORT SIDE SINCE IT IS NOT AERODYNAMIC ENOUGH TO TRAVEL, SINCE THE WIND WAS AGAINST IT, SINCE IT COULD NOT HAVE PUSHED ITSELF THROUGH THE EXPOSION OR THROUGH THE COMPACTING FUSELAGE OF A BOEINT. THE PIECE WAS PLANTED AND I GIVE THE EVIDENCE. THUS URBAN LEGENDS AUTHORS Barbara and David P. Mikkelson HAVE NOT DONE THEIR HOMEWORK -- AND THEY ARE, WITTINGLY OR UNWITTINGLY, SUPPORTING WHAT HAS BEEN EXPOSED AS PLANTED FALSE EVIDENCE AND A COVERUP.
"Small pieces of airplane debris were plainly visible on the Pentagon lawn in other photographs, however, such as the one below: "
I suspect Barbara and David P. Mikkelson know that what they are writing misrepresents the facts.
Next they talk about the sand that was put down. They say it was to keep trucks from slipping. That is possible, in my opinion -- but it also covered the lack of bounce marks and buried any telltale pieces that might have told a souvenier hunter what kind of craft really hit the building. Yet Barbara and David P. Mikkelson want to take the DoD's word for it -- and I can't disprove that word on this point.
Now here is the biggest stretch -- the most blatant case of "urban legends" spinning coverup or at least dishing it out:
Barbara and David P. Mikkelson are asked, "Can you explain what happened to the wings of the aircraft and why they caused no damage?"
They reply:
As the front of the Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, the outer portions of the wings likely snapped during the initial impact, then were pushed inward towards the fuselage and carried into the building's interior; the inner portions of the wings probably penetrated the Pentagon walls with the rest of the plane."
This could not have happened. The engines hit before any part of the wings. They were in the wall. Furthermore, as the many photos available at my page at apfn page show the hole was too small even for the fuselage, much less the engines. (From engine to engine is the distance across 6 Pentagon windows. But the hole made by the killer jet in the outer wall is only 10 feet wide, the distance between only two Pentagon windows!!!) AND IF THE PLANE IS SAID TO HAVE DISINTEGRATED ON IMPACT WITH THE HARD BUILDING, AS Barbara and David P. Mikkelson CLAIM THEN WHERE WAS THE ADHESION THAT WOULD PULL THE ENGINES OUT OF THE HOLE THEY WERE MAKING AND TUG IT INTO THE HOLE THAT WAS FILLED WITH THE COMPACTING EXPLODING FUSELAGE -- ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE FUEL BETWEEN THE FUSELAGE AND THE ENGINES!!!! Hello, Barbara and David P. Mikkelson, are you there????
Barbara and David P. Mikkelson then add: "damage to the building caused by the plane's wings is plainly visible in photographs, such as the one below (note the blackened sections on both sides of the impact site" -- except that the blackening was caused by the fire not by the wings -- fire as the liquid, fallen to the first floor flowed out in all directions -- actually leaving less fuel under plane wreckage to vaporize the entire plane as Barbara and David P. Mikkelson seem to claim happened.
I am very suspicious of the motive for this misrepresentation by Barbara and David P. Mikkelson of urban legends, especially when they put out this falsehood, known to any and every investigator as totally false. (If you have seen the photos I show at apfn and that all honest investigators show at their sites -- you know that the pictures not only exist, but that they prove the size of the hole that is smoking gun evidence of a mass-murder frameup by the Administration.
Here is where we really catch Urban Legends disinformationists, Barbara and David P. Mikkelson :
"Immediately after Flight 77 smashed into the Pentagon, the impact was obscured by a huge fireball, explosions, fire, smoke, and water from firefighting efforts. Within a half hour, the upper stories of the building collapsed, thereby permanently obscuring the impact site. It simply wasn't possible for photographs to capture a clear view of the impact site during that brief interval between the crash and the collapse. "
THE FACT ARE 1) THE PHOTOS EXIST AND ARE ON DISPLAY AS EXHIBIT ONE AGAINST THE NEOCON CONSPIRACY; 2) THE FIRE AROUND THE HOLE WAS TOTALLY PUT OUT BY FIREMENT BEFORE THE WALL COLLAPSED -- THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Barbara and David P. Mikkelson HAVE GIVEN YOU THIS FALSE INFORMATION PRECISELY SUFFICIENT TO COVERUP THE CRITICAL DAMNING EVIDENCE.
Here is the page with all the falsehoods of Barbara and David P. Mikkelson for "Urban Legends": http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
ANd here is the information that exposes that disinformation:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ericbart
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deastman1.htm
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deastman2.htm
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deastman3.htm
http://www.ifrance.fr/silentbutdeadly/
http://www.the-movement.com/Hijackers/Agents.htm
http://www.communitycurrency.org/pi.html
http://www.koolpages.com/killtown/flight77.html
http://www.humanunderground.com/11september/pent.html
http://www.waronfreedom.mediamonitors.net/index.html
http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm
http://amigaphil.planetinternet.be/PentagonCrash.html (en francais)
http://digipressetmp4.teaser.fr/site/dossier.php?dosnum=60
http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/images-pentagone/index.htmhttp://www.
asile.org/citoyens/numero13/images-pentagone/index.htm
http://alberta.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/4578.php
http://hamilton.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=1786&group=webcast
http://buffalo.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=3265
I hope that helps you, Ed.
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
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