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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:14:49 +0000
From: S. Meckled-Garcia. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: philosophers and war

Just a few facts worth contemplating when assessing nobel prize cadidates:

1. The continual refusal by the US to stop using cluster bombs (in spite of
UN protestation). Forget the horror of how these kill: During the Gulf War
over 30 million cluster bomblets were dropped on Kuwait and Iraq and, in the
following months, unexploded bombs killed 1,600 civilians and injured
another 2,500. Similar wide use of cluster bombs has taken place in
Afghanistan. 25, 000 bomblets during Kosovo conflict (Red Cross estimates
that a child in Kosovo is 5 times more likely to be harmed by a NATO cluster
bomb than by a serbian landmine).
http://www.itvs.org/bombies/bombs.html

2. The current administration pulled out of the Biological Weapons
Convention conference in July 2001, leading to its collapse, because the
conference had tabled discussion of a new protocol making inspections
possible in all signatory nations (to regulate dual use technology). At the
same time, the Act incorporating provisions of the Chemial Weapons
Convention into US law stipulates that a) "Not subject to judicial
review.--Any objection by the President to an individual serving as an
inspector, whether made pursuant to this section or otherwise, shall not be
reviewable in any court." and b) The "President may deny a request to
inspect any facility in the United States in cases where the President
determines that the inspection may pose a threat to the national security
interests of the United States."

3. The US continues to refuse to be a party to (or entertain) the1997
Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling, Production and
Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on their Destruction (1997 Mine Ban
Treaty) [interestingly Afghanistan is now a party].

4. There are also those troubling figures on those civilians, mainly
children, who have been affected by depleted uranium warheads used in NATO
bombing campaigns, for years after the military action took place.This will
include Afghanistan, where it has further been estimated that civilian
deaths as an INDIRECT consequence of boming have been far in excess of those
deaths which are a direct consequence (As discussed in a 20 May Guardian
article, by Jonathon Steele, who compiled figures from information given by
IDP and refugee camp workers in Afghanistan and out, such as Medecins du
Monde).

5. What is more, according to reasonable estimates, the ratio of civilian
casualties to ordenance dropped has steadily increased in the campaigns
since Gulf War I (when smart bombs were first widely publicised), due to a
number of factors indicating that technology by itself is not a good
predictor of humane consequences of military action
(http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1022/p01s01-wosc.html ).

In the light of this, the smartest thing about smart bomb technology is how
it sounds.

At 13:29 14/03/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Stephen Voss has provided fitting illustrations
>of why U.S. efforts to develope advanced
>technologies for the avoidance of such carnage
>wrought on civilian populations should be
>honored in the highest as one of the most admirable
>achievements of any civilized nation to find itself
>in a position of liberator of a nation which faces
>such destruction by its own government on
>a virtually daily basis. This web site provides
>considerable reason for believing that efforts of
>the U.S. military are deserving of a Nobel
>Peace Prize. Thank you, Mr. Voss.
>
>Steve Bayne
>
>
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>From: "Stephen Voss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:05 PM
>Subject: philosophers and war
>
>
> > Dear philosophy list members,
> >
> >         In the belief that philosophers can contribute in unique ways to
> > the controversy between war and other options for securing protection
> > against Iraqi WMDs, and in the belief that moral imagination is
essential,
> > I urge anyone hoping to contribute in this way to visit this web site:
> >
> >         http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/thisiswar/
> >
> > Stephen

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