-Caveat Lector- Yeah, I think you forgot to mention that Ron Paul is against this war, and even GHWB has warned against unilateralism. I could list a number of other conservatives against the war, but why bother? Instead of listening to the neo-cons and thinking you're conservative, Ray, you might try listening to the *real* conservatives, who unfortunately number very few these days. Dubya campaigned on making the fed smaller and not intervening in foreign entanglements. But Cheney and his cabinet, Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz among them, had other ideas. They want, and now have, a Wilsonian policy, and coupled with very weak and arrogant dimplomacy, it's become isolationist and expansionist at the same time. This is not conservative according to a lot of true conservatives. It's antithetical to the Constitution and to the Founders' intentions. It's imperialism.
Remember how angry Eisenhower was at the British and the French for attacking Egypt in the '50s? Remember? - jt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Euphorian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/18/2003 1:19:05 PM, Ray Boeche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Just don't be anxious to engage me in a battle of wits unless you're >>sure you are fully armed. With what? Wits? With "fully"? "Engage"ment rings? This is beginning to sound serious ... But seriously, how does one become "armed" with "wits" anyway? Not all people who are adamantly against war as a means to an end are leftists, nor conservatives, nor centrists. Nor communists nor democrats, nor republicans nor "Greens" nor "Browns" nor "Yellows", striped, polka dots, plaids, or pastels. It's usually the ones who can think independently and see the charade for the hologram for the sleight of hand compared to those with the slight of mind or reason. As far as "leftist nuts" are concerned, we need those! There are bolts with an opposite threading for which "rightist nuts" would be not up to the taks! A<:>E<:>R <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
