-Caveat Lector- 3/22/2003 1:12:49 PM, goldi316 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>-Caveat Lector- > >What I find most puzzling about the "pro-war" camp is it's obtuse refusal to look >at the REAMS of evidence that has been provided - REPEATEDLY, from many different >sources on the right as well as the left. that the Bush excuses for this war are >based on nothing but LIES! It's called what Rumsy referred to as the "Old Europe" syndrome, in that "Old Europe" has alredy gone through its Fascist stages and can see the parallels between the 1930ies and the US. The danger comes about when the U.S. supposedly defeated Fascism, it made us immune from its effects. Don't woik that way. Not for us, not for the Neo-Palestineans, not for no one. It comes from a too-ingrained sense of a person and his group being "right" and expecting everyone else to recognise that. And so, something from, about "Old Europe": What was representative of European fascism about all four writers was their revolt against decadence and their defense of spirituality. What exactly did they mean by these words, and, given the fact that there were inevitably variations in the way each of themn used these words, what were some of the connotations they all accepted? With the exception of the early Celine (more about this later [in the text, A<>E<>R]), these writers repeatedly extolled, as a major dimension of the spiritual, a set of essentially military [it. In text, A<:>E<:>R] values. Combined with these was a distinct taste for socio-economic conservatism, right-wing nationalism, Darwinian ?realism,? and misogyny. In the lexicon of these writers, spiritual [it.] referred not only to the religious and the transcendental, which automatically excluded Marxist atheism and historical materialism, but to authoritarian conservatism and male virility. The spiritual included survival of the fittest, careers open to talent, the right of natural elites to upward social mobility and political leadership, as well as accommodation with large sections of the established elites. It prized social hierarchy, respect for superiors, and military discipline. It was best served by capitalist economics, class collaboration, and social order. The spiritual also meant physical prowess, self-discipline, and military bravery. It required a certain asceticism toward one?s body and one?s feelings, which emotionally translated into a tough-minded realism with little pity for its victims. The spiritual was fed by an energizing nationalistic passion and an energizing religious faith, both of which justified brutalizing decadent outsiders. The spiritual was forceful toward the weak. The spiritual was male. Decadence was the opposite of these values. It connoted not only Marxism and liberalism but also secularism and feminism. Decadence was proletarian solidarity, class struggle, and Marxism internationalism. It was political, social, and gender democracy. It was rule by the Darwinian unfit. Decadence was the nationalization of the basic means of production and working-class selfishness, laziness, and indiscipline. It was hedonism, cowardice, and self-indulgence as well as physical and moral softness. It was debilitating rationalism, religious skepticism, and liberal sentimentalism. It was military defeat by one?s enemies. Decadence was female. *French Fascism: The Second Wave, 1933-1939*, Robert Soucy, 1991, extracted from Chapter 6, "French Fascist Intellectuals and the Revolt Against Decadence, p. 281 <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'�with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds�is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
