Re: [CTRL] Neocons Lied Us Into War - Will They Get Away With It Twice?

[Jim Rarey]

-Caveat Lector- Bill,   My point was that Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives have all lied us into war. At least that's how it's perceived when in reality all those people are (or were) part of the same drive for global power that is at least a century old in this country.   Bashing Republicans and not Democrats, conservatives (neocons) and not liberals is not only not helpful, it perpetuates the division amongst us.   JR   ----- Original Message ----- From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Neocons Lied Us Into War - Will They Get Away With It Twice? -Caveat Lector- Jim, I am well aware of the incidents you cited. All accurate and all of which I'd have been vocally opposing if I was able at the time. My concern is not with what was done in the past but what is happening now, with the person in the White House and his handlers. Are you suggesting that we should silently accept it since "everyone does it?" I, for one, will not. Incidently, I was disturbed that April Glaspie's giving Saddam the green light against a neighbor who was slant-drilling into Iraqi oilfields was later used against him. Very poor form on our part and not a little embarrassing. Being in my mid-30's however I was not around to grouse about the others. But for the record, each of the scenarios are, in my opinion, unforgivable offenses. Bill. In a message dated 6/10/2003 12:14:15 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You think politicians would lie to us in order to get us into a war? I'm shocked, really shocked - not.   Woodrow Wilson lied us into World War I.   FDR let Pearl Harbor happen, much as 9/11 was allowed to happen, to get us into World War II to help Britain and the USSR.   Harry Truman's Secretary of State Dean Acheson invited North Korea to attack South Korea when he declared South Korea was "outside of our perimeter of defense."   Lyndon Johnson lied about the Gulf of Tonkin "incident" to get us fully into the Vietnam conflict.   Bush the Elder told Saddam we would take no action if he invaded Kuwait.   Now you think Bush II lied to get us into the war with Iraq? The only surprising thing is that anyone is surprised.   BTW, were all those above "neocons"? www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om