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--- Begin Message --- -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/25/2003 1:54:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Message I sent is NOT a forgery, and was not sent for any political
purpose or agenda.
Sheesh.
As a matter of fact, I did edit out a paragraph I did consider disparaging
toward Kris.
Gooly Gee whiz, you are so nice, that you "edited" that out. It would have hurt my feelings, I guess..
Gee that makes you a nice person, so I guess I must be an "unice" person, My sympathy is all your'n. (Oh, the pschology of it all .... Get some new tricks.)
Is that the only part that you edited-out or was the something about the Lindbergh baby too?
I can repost it with full headers, if you like.
Yes, but can you supply us with a notarized true copy? Or is it written in a font that you had given to your keepers in April and you have been writing in a different font since then?
Please repost the whole thing complete with headers. It won't mean anything factual.
How do you get your mail? A attempt to reach your site at 10am today reached my disabled e-store. So there is no site just my store, collecting info or just trying to make a buck? We don't sell that many online. One would think, but we sell 3-5 products a week. whatcha wanna know? I get my mail at AOL, yeah it #$%^& but it was the only thing I could get where I was for a MAC.
The biggest untruth in the email is the thing about EIR backing Chalabi. That never happened. Do a search on google, call Mr. Chaitkin yourself, if you wish to bother him.
I can post an email from him where he calls your post a travesty. A question arises why are you attacking the very folks working within the beltway who are having a big effect and have been exposing Cheney, Rumsfield and the whole neo-cons that McBride is pushing as the "head crew" here.
Hmm.. Now I am not a Larouchian, but I do like their research and find Mr. Chaitkin to be an honorable fellow. And do enjoy their exposes on the neo-cons and all that network that goes bcak to the same old dialectic playmakers, the secret societies, the U of Chicago and such are quite beholden to the elite deviant crowd.
Now, and interesting thing is that I received email from Brian on the same day, with some rather interesting insights into what Brian was doing. So, I have headers too.
Oh, and guess what there is a phone guy downstairs working on my phone box. I have four lines. All were disabled, but then were made to work by a simple phone call from the phone company, yesterday. The one for the computer couldn't be fixed that way and required one fellow this morning and another this afternoon to work all the way from my box out to restore the phone line for my computer all on their time..
Well, I guess, I could just change lines ;-)
Peace,
Om
K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Howdy one all,
>
> It has been very sad to see the passing of writer and researcher Brian
> Quigg being used so shamelessly for political purposes.
>
> There has been a concerted effort to "take over" the CIA-Drugs public
> board and to besmirch many of the posters and researchers. This same
> activity surface earlier in attacks on Mike Ruppert. There has also been
> much "created conflict" using the mind-control morass, that is a part of
> the CIA-Drugs topic. Currently there has been an ongoing attempts to lay
> suspicions as to peoples agendas, attempts to "hi-jack" the growing
> conspiracy awareness and an outrageous forgery.
>
> examples below:
>
> Laying suspicions all around by "better-off-said,"
>
> >>It's beginning to look like someone is allowing Stew Webb to
> >>deliberately sabotage the board.
>
> another:
>
> >>I have
> >>heard Ruppert state in person that "Israel had nothing to do with
> >>9/11." I had to seriously question his motives after hearing him
> >>state that, and after seeing the numerous connections made by posters
> >>such as Sean McBride linking Israel to 9/11. For any serious
> >>journalist to not only fail to connect the dots, but to refuse to
> >>acknowledge how Israel could have benefited from 9/11, leaves me to
> >>seriously wonder who's pulling his or her strings. Truth seekers
> >>don't let personal or political beliefs get in the way of their
> >>research -- I've seen both demonstrated in Ruppert.
>
> another:
>
> >>Larry Lawson mentioned something interesting here, and that is the
> >>ongoing feud (for lack of a better word) between Mike Ruppert and
> >>Alex Jones.
>
> >>It just so happens that both Ruppert and Jones are featured in G.N.N.
> >>(Guerilla News Network)'s Aftermath video, which features nine
> >>investigative journalists answering eleven pertinent questions
> >>surrounding 9/11.
>
> >>Again, it makes me wonder what rifts such as these do for a movement,
> >>along with the credibility of the producers of Aftermath, Anthony
> >>Lappe and Stephen Marshall (although Marshall's credibility was all
> >>ready tainted IMHO).
>
> >>I imagine it would be difficult to look credible once you have
> >>warring factions within a movement who aren't even on the same page.
>
> >>And again, it makes me wonder just who are the willing participants
> >>and who are the innocent bystanders.
>
> another:
>
> >>To me there is no logical answer other than the fact that these
> >>people have been turned by the very government they swore to expose,
> >>first Ruppert, then Flocco, then Fitts, and now you, Kris, with your
> >>allowing the board to be sabotaged by Stew Webb (and in your refusal
> >>to see how it hurts the reputation of the list).
>
> >>The other explanation would be that you weren't turned and that you
> >>all were doing their bidding from the beginning.
>
> ==
>
> There has been a concerted effort to hijack the growing conspiracy
> awareness, to attempt to shift blame from Bushes and the synarchistic
> secret societal cabal to the old Israel did it canard. A canard that can
> then be swatted aside with the other hand of a PC dialectic,
> anti-semitism.
>
> I do not deny that there is a Zionist element within synarchistic elite
> deviant cabal, but have not seen strong evidence to suggest that the
> Israeli, government, Mosad or Jews in general are the "head" of the
> octopus.
>
> This attempt has been very transparently played by several "anonymous" and
> other agendic posters.
>
> On Monday a most outrageous forgery was posted to the board, in an attempt
> to further besmirch me using a purported email from Brian.
>
> >>
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>
> From: The Webfairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:50 pm
> Subject: A Message from Quig 4/14/03 5:02 PM
>
> From: "BRIAN DOWNING QUIG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 4/14/03 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: AHMED CHALABI: The Janos Kadar of Iraq
> To: The Webfairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> This is for you and no one else. I spoke with Anton Chaikin this
> weekend and EIR is backing this Chalabi. I thought you might like to
> know that since you think EIR is for real. Be very careful dear lady.
>
> Kris says he owns CIA-DRUGS but I say those in the struggle for truth
> and liberty own the list.
>
> Brian Downing Quig
>
> > AHMED CHALABI: The Janos Kadar of Iraq
> >
> > by B. Raman
> >
> > The indications till now are that having occupied Iraq, the US
> > plans to instal Ahmed Chalabi, allegedly a long-time collaborator
> > initially of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and presently of
> > the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) of the Pentagon, as the head
> > of the interim Iraqi authority, which would provide an Iraqi facade
> > to the US military rule of Iraq.
>
> 1. EIR has never said it was going to back Chalabi. They have posted
> several articles exposing the whole Iraqi fiasco, Chalabi included.
>
> 2. Chaitkin's name is spelled wrong. I have spoken with Mr. Chaitkin, yes
> he did speak with Brian occasionally. Brian was very respectful towards
> EIR's research and knew Anton well enough to spell his name correctly.
>
> 3. The article posted with the note is not from EIR
>
> 4. The dig about me owning the list and such is referring to stuff that
> happened after the date of the supposed post.
>
> 5. The post is a forgery.
>
> Exposed as either agents or true believers attempting to hijack the
> cia-board and besmirch folks are Sean McBride, "better-off-said" ,
> Webfairy and Dick Eastman - among others
>
> I wouldn't trust them as far as they can post.
>
> Gee, and what has been going on while this has been going on. Hmm, Our
> dedicated web server "crashed" taken down all our sites, store and
> archives. Our phones lines keep getting messed up and are down while
> authors are on radio stations giving out our number. Brian Quigg passes. A
> ratcheting up at the hijacking and attacks on the board. Bob, an old time
> poster and archivist has had computer problems, David Guyatt in England
> has been getting death threats. We have anew book coming out in September
> that destroys the facade over the Bush Family defense about the Nazi
> financing issue, plus many other revealing items about Bones and our
> current situation and we are getting attacked by people that say Bush is
> just some dumb guy and its all the other peoples doing. Hmm ...
>
> Must run, got more than enough to do today ...
>
> There's something happening here
> What it is ain't exactly clear
> There's a man with a gun over there
> Telling me I got to beware
> I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
> Everybody look what's going down
>
> There's battle lines being drawn
> Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
> Young people speaking their minds
> Getting so much resistance from behind
> I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
> Everybody look what's going down
>
> What a field-day for the heat
> A thousand people in the street
> Singing songs and carrying signs
> Mostly say, hooray for our side
> It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
> Everybody look what's going down
>
> Paranoia strikes deep
> Into your life it will creep
> It starts when you're always afraid
> You step out of line, the man come and take you away
> We better stop, hey, what's that sound
>
> Everybody look what's going down
> Stop, hey, what's that sound
> Everybody look what's going down
> Stop, now, what's that sound
> Everybody look what's going down
> Stop, children, what's that sound
> Everybody look what's going down
> � Stephen Stlls
>
> Om
> K
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