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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Same Old Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Subject: Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Re: Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews
as Christ-killers
Jesus Christ NEVER said to love His enemies. That would invalidate the
faith. The Grovelling Grahams and other pray tv types say to love the
enemies of Jesus Christ. That is, they tell us to love the antichrists (I
John 2:22).
POC
(LEZ)
********* <http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens> **********
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Same Old Bob wrote:
> I could look up where the Devil tempted Jesus in wilderness.
> Devil quoted scripture, just like you're doing, POC.
>
> This group of yours is weird place, by the way.
> Even weirder than that place in Gatlinburg Tennessee where my ex-
> wife was taller than me, even tho she was 5 or 6 inches shorter than
> me anywhere else.
>
> Only here on dialectic can one find me arguing mainstream Xianity
> against your devilish temptering. <grin>
>
> Bob
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Party of
> Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Take my yoke upon you and learn of me" the Master said. We are
> told to
> > love our enemies because we often mistake friends for enemies and
> > vice-versa. Show me one place where Jesus says to love HIS enemies.
> > POC
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Same Old Bob wrote:
> >
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Party of
> > > Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > The Jews are probably correct as you note below
> about "Christians"
> > > which
> > > > is why I am not one. OTOH, what kind of "Christian" sides with
> the
> > > Jewish
> > > > claim to be the "lost sheep of Israel" sought by Jesus Christ?
> > > >
> > > > NONE of those Jews to whom you refer are PRO- the teachings of
> > > Jesus
> > > > Christ. All are ANTI- the teachings of Jesus Christ, ie all are
> > > among the
> > > > 'antichrists' in I John 2:22.
> > > >
> > > > Show us where Jesus Christ says, "Love MY enemies". He only
> > > says, "Love YOUR enemies".
> > >
> > > According to scripture, Devil, using scripture, tried to tempt
> Jesus
> > > to do evil. Jesus didn't fall for Devil's trickery. Neither will
> I
> > > fall for your trickery, POC! <chuckling>
> > >
> > > Love your enemies.
> > > Pray for those who persecute you.
> > > Return good for evil.
> > >
> > > If Jesus is holding grudge against his enemies, whomever they may
> > > be, I'll leave it to Jesus to handle his own grudges.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > >
> > > > POC
> > > > (Learned Elders of Zion)
> > > >
> > > > ********* <http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens>
> > > **********
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bob S. wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I love the controversy over Mel Gibson's Jesus movie, THE
> > > PASSION!
> > > > > (See article below my rant.)
> > > > >
> > > > > The Jews say that Gibson portrays Jews as Christ-killers.
> > > > > Jews don't say that Jewish movies, comic books, etc. often
> > > ridicule
> > > > > Christianity & insult the Christian faith.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ha ha.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example Mel Brooks' BLAZING SADDLES portrays a Christian
> > > > > congregation as a bunch of morons & Jew Gene Wilder analyzes
> > > > > Christian congregation thusly, "these are common-clave
> people ...
> > > > > You know, MORONS."
> > > > >
> > > > > Jewish (Vertigo/DC - COHANIM president & editor-in-chief
> Jeanette
> > > > > Kahn) comic book series PREACHER had Grail cult kidnapping
> > > children
> > > > > of Jesus & Mary Magdalene, incestuously interbredding them
> for
> > > 2000
> > > > > years for second coming of idiot descendant offspring of
> Jesus!
> > > > >
> > > > > Futurama comic book story CHRISTMAS issue had Futurama crew
> doing
> > > > > zombie Jesus play. Get it? Christians believe that Jesus rose
> > > from
> > > > > dead, so Jews say Jesus must be zombie. Zombie Jesus libel
> was
> > > also
> > > > > on tv series in episode likely written by goddamn Jew.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mel Gibson is member of reactionary Catholic sect which
> rejects
> > > > > Vatican II. Before Vatican II Catholic Church called
> > > Jews "Christ-
> > > > > killers." Since Vatican II, Catholic Church characterized
> Jews
> > > > > as "perfidious", only stopped calling Jews "perfidious" few
> years
> > > > > ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.thesoutherncross.co.za/church%20and%20judaism.htm
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.americancatholic.org/messenger/jul2000/feature2_sidebara.a
> > > > > sp
> > > > >
> > > > > <quoting>
> > > > > 1959�Pope John XXIII orders that the reference to "perfidious
> > > Jews"
> > > > > be removed from the Good Friday liturgy. These prayers were
> > > > > completely revised after Vatican II. Between 1959 and 1963,
> Pope
> > > > > John XXIII meets with individual Jewish leaders and with
> Jewish
> > > > > groups. Pope Paul VI continues this practice.
> > > > > <quoting>
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.volasia.com/forum/topicDisplay.php?topicID=288
> > > > > http://www.catholicism.org/News/rabbigibson.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob is neither Catholic nor Jew.
> > > > > Bob is not religious Christian but is ethnic Christian.
> > > > > Bob is agnostic who HATES Zionism & double-standard where is
> OK
> > > for
> > > > > Jews to insult Christians but isn't OK for Christians to
> insult
> > > Jews.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers
> > > > >
> > > > > http://angrywhitefemale.net/mel-gibson.html
> > > > >
> > > > > The Passion, a movie being directed by Mel Gibson, will be an
> > > > > accurate historical account of the crucifixion of Jesus
> Christ.
> > > > > Accurate is the operative word here. The Jews have spent many
> > > moons
> > > > > in Hollywood re-writing White history for the stupid goyim,
> and
> > > have
> > > > > managed to make a huge profit from the goyim's historical
> > > ignorance
> > > > > and fear of the anti-Semite label. So, the words "accurate
> > > depiction
> > > > > of the crucifixion of Christ" when used by devout Catholic
> Mel
> > > > > Gibson raised blood red flags in Hebewood and Jew York. The
> > > thought
> > > > > (now reality) of a goy director making a movie depicting an
> > > > > historical truth about Jews has created a firestorm in the
> > > > > Pharisees' communities. "Why, only the Juden are permitted to
> > > define
> > > > > history," thinketh the Jewish supremacists. A cursory review
> will
> > > > > quickly expose the fact that Jews write and direct virtually
> > > every
> > > > > single anti-White, pro-miscegenation, anti-moral and anti-
> > > Christian
> > > > > movie, while paying no heed to protests from outraged-but-
> > > sheeplike
> > > > > Christian groups who continue to identify these Jews
> > > as "Atheists"
> > > > > and "Pagans." You wouldn't know it, but Christians oppose
> lies
> > > and
> > > > > defamations about their Lord and Savior in flicks such as The
> > > Last
> > > > > Temptation of Christ and Jewish-reeking museum exhibits such
> > > > > as "pissing" on Christ. But portray the Jews' ancestors
> > > accurately,
> > > > > and it is "anti-Semitism."
> > > > >
> > > > > Gimme a break!
> > > > >
> > > > > The fact that Jews control so much of what we think via
> Hollywood
> > > > > lends an air of mystery and awe to this Gibson vs. the Jews
> > > dispute.
> > > > > The man just may be something like William Wallace and The
> > > Patriot!
> > > > > Just imagine the Jews in power shaking in their boots at the
> > > > > prospect of being accurately portrayed as Christ-killers,
> rather
> > > > > than their usual arrogant churning out of anti-White and
> anti-
> > > > > Christian movies designed to promote self-loathing and
> hatred of
> > > > > White western culture, people and history. They rightly fear
> that
> > > > > Mel Gibson, who portrayed the brave and principled William
> > > Wallace
> > > > > in Braveheart, actually living up to his role of
> uncompromising
> > > hero
> > > > > of his Celtic folk! Yikes! Horror of horrors! But instead of
> the
> > > > > ball and chain in the bed chamber of the enemy, he has his
> own
> > > > > production company, Icon Productions. He is fighting the Jew
> with
> > > > > the Jews' own weapons, while the Jew call his religion a
> cult.
> > > > >
> > > > > What a nightmare it must be for them that an upstanding rich
> and
> > > > > powerful White man will not allow Jews to rewrite his script
> to
> > > > > portray the Pharisees, and by extension all "Jews" as
> eternally
> > > > > innocent and victimized. Says the Jewdeo-Christians "No!
> It's the
> > > > > atheists, not the Jews who oppose this movie and Mel Gibson's
> > > > > Christian values! It's the enemies of Christ!" Well. who do
> ya
> > > think
> > > > > that is, you idiot Pat Robertson, you shabbos goyim at the
> > > people's
> > > > > Free Republic and you anti-U.S.S. Liberty sell-outs at
> > > > > Worldnetdaily! It's the Jew, stupid! But we all know if you
> > > > > acknowledge this fact, you'll then have to come out against
> Mel
> > > > > Gibson just as you traitors came out against the entire crew
> of
> > > the
> > > > > U.S.S Liberty, victims of a deliberate Israel military
> attack.
> > > The
> > > > > survivors are really amused that you think their
> testimonials are
> > > > > the imaginings of old fools who have been taken in by "anti-
> > > > > Semites."
> > > > >
> > > > > Methinks the Jews have bitten off more than they can chew
> this
> > > time,
> > > > > and they've picked a fight with the wrong White man. Instead
> of
> > > > > being prudent and leaving this one alone, they have given The
> > > > > Passion publicity with their knee-jerk, hysterical reaction
> and
> > > > > vicious attacks against the Gibson family. They want ALL the
> > > power,
> > > > > and NO dissension and they'll do whatever is within their
> power
> > > to
> > > > > force Mel Gibson's submission to the Pharisees' demands.
> > > > > Anticipating that Mel won't denounce his parents as "anti-
> > > Semites,"
> > > > > they have graduated to attacking the elderly couple.
> According to
> > > > > Jewish reporters, the following quotes (which mysteriously
> came
> > > out
> > > > > after the details of the movie became known) are "true
> > > testimonies"
> > > > > of the "anti-Semitism" of the traditionalist "we reject the
> Jew-
> > > > > Papal reforms" Gibsons.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Go and ask an undertaker or the guy who operates the
> crematorium
> > > > > what it takes to get rid of a dead body," Hutton Gibson told
> The
> > > > > Times. "It takes one liter of petrol and 20 minutes. Now six
> > > > > million?"
> > > > >
> > > > > If this is true, I commend the elder Gibson for asking
> questions
> > > the
> > > > > lying, guilt-mongering Jews cannot answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Said Joye Gibson: "There weren't even that many Jews in all
> of
> > > > > Europe."
> > > > >
> > > > > According to historical records, this is the honest truth.
> And
> > > as we
> > > > > all know by now, honesty is an anti-Semite. According to the
> > > > > Jews'media, the Gibsons also believe the holy-hoax was
> > > fabricated to
> > > > > cover the fact that Hitler cooperated with Jewish Zionists to
> > > force
> > > > > emigration to the Palestinians' land. In case this doesn't
> turn
> > > the
> > > > > idiot flag-waving Jewdeo-Christians against the Gibson
> family,
> > > they
> > > > > say the elder Gibson doesn't believe Usamah Bin Laden
> perpetrated
> > > > > the 911 attacks. What better way to promote hatred of Mel
> Gibson
> > > > > than guilt by association with his father, who has treaded
> > > heavily
> > > > > on this taboo. After all, we are expected to believe
> everything
> > > this
> > > > > creepy, Orwellian government and media says. Obey, consume
> and
> > > hate
> > > > > who your worst enemy tells you to. Yes, they have already
> > > started,
> > > > > but at night they dread the thought that despite the
> possibility
> > > of
> > > > > the peasantry engaging in a Jew-orchestrated 'two minutes
> hate'
> > > > > against the Gibson family, the persecution will end up a
> rallying
> > > > > call for our people, just as it did for Scottish independence
> > > hero
> > > > > William Wallace. We just may have a true Braveheart in our
> > > corner.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ***** Let us talk about what we are not supposed to talk
> about
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> from
> > > smartspeak. What is the code of totem and taboo under Whitehouse-
> > > Orwellian "newspeak" as it was called in 1984? What
> is "doubleplus
> > > ungood crimethink" in Orwell's classic? *****
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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