From: Tim Carmain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>We have Saunier speaking out in church >in favor of the
Bourbons.Bourbon/Hapsburg
> tie in? Some people had believed Louis >XVII was still alive, but
Naundorff is
> somewhat recognized. Naundorf has a >large occult following and also
the
> Martinists and Leon XIII and Benoit XV >support him.
Hmmm...I can only speculate on the coziness between the Bourbons and
the Habsburgs - "en famille" they might have held warm feelings for
one another, but on a larger scale, the Bourbons are Capetians and the
Habsburgs are Lorraines. Any goals of re-establishing the Empire
would pit the two houses against one another, forcing the Catholic
Church to choose between the two. Maybe they thought of joining
forces to rid Germany (the former Holy Roman Empire) of the Lutheran
Hohenzollerns, but after that...
Then again, the Empire was an elective throne...maybe they thought
they'd play to the Electors (Kurfursten) and let the best man win. I
dunno...it sounds a bit ephemeral for the harsh realities of 19th
century Realpolitik...
> The Archduke of Habsbourg goes to see >Saunier (about the found
documents?).
That's always puzzled me. Whatever it was that Sauniere found, it
held great interest for the Habsburgs. One is left to wonder whether
they were acting on the Church's behalf, or on their own.
> The documents prove the survival of >Louis XVIII and his
descendants, the >proof of that heritage alone is worth 10 >times
Sauniers fortune. The Priory
> documents are created from these true >documents. Replace Louis XVI
with
> Dagobert II, his son Louis XVII with >Sigebert IV and Naundorff with
Plantard.
> Now we are to M.Dagoberts claim of >Church and Hapsburg getting
buddy/buddy, >to restore the Empire.
Maybe I'm missing something, but what would be the significance of
such documents to a Vatican/Austrian plot to restore the Empire? All
it would serve to do, IMHO, is to put the Naundorff claimant ahead of
the cadet Bourbons. On the off-chance that France would have restored
it's monarchy, it would be significant, but how does this relate to
the Empire?
I've read elsewhere that the Comte de Chambord, "de jure" Henri V of
France and the last Bourbon of the senior line, was keenly interested
in Naundorff. The matter was of grave concern to him, particularly in
1870/71 when it looked as though his restoration was a fait accompli.
Purportedly, a collection of sworn statements attesting to Naundorff's
legitimacy called the "Dossiers Rouge" was obtained by the Vatican
after Henri's death. Who the statements are from is anyone's guess.
I personally don't put much stock in Naundorff, but then again I
wasn't there at the time.
It is interesting that the Naundorff claims crops up here, as I am
still very much of the opinion that the elusive Carl La Fleur is none
other than Charles Edmond "de Bourbon", a French Canadian who is one
of the two rival Naundorffiste claimants.
Tim Carmain
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