In a message dated 10/1/03 11:52:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
McFraud,
Up to your old rhetorical tricks?
You arguments speak out of both sides of your mouth.
You seem to have a hard time reading what I very plainly say.
You truly expect us to believe these public pronouncements? And this dichotmy of the Bushes. Do we then get to choose between the Good Bush and the Bad Bush?
Now, McFraud, you claim to be very well read, but then you troll with stupid questions,about Cheney and Bones. As any reder of this list and others knws, Dick Cheney is not a member of Bones, but he does have 10 Cheney relatives that have been members. Dick Cheney's grandaddy and W's grandaddy both worked for the same Bonesman WA Harriman. Dicky went to Yale and went home lovesick.
And calling you McFraud maybe chidish to you, but it is the truth. You are a FRAUD. McBride is not your real name. You hide behind a curtain and throw rocks and say that you stand for our country. I say you are a fraud. Anbody who can think, knows that the best protection from any intell agency is sunshine and to be upfront and publish. Do you truly claim to be so houdini that you may keep you existence unknown. Your tactic is that of cointelpro not a patriot.
And life ain't no debating society for your jollies, nether.
Someone's got it in for me, they're planting stories in the press
Whoever it is I wish they'd cut it out but when they will I can only guess.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your mouth,
Blowing down the backroads headin' south.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.
-Caveat Lector-
Millegan,
Yeah, right McFraud, Bushies always tell the truth in their public pronouncements.
Here's a direct quote from Bush Sr. explaining why he opposed the invasion and occupation of Iraq during the Gulf War:
While we hoped that popular revolt or coup would topple Saddam, neither the U.S. nor the countries of the region wished to see the breakup of the Iraqi state. We were concerned about the long-term balance of power at the head of the Gulf. Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-cold war world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the U.N.'s mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome.
See my other recent post on this subject for the full context of this quote: it has the subject heading Reasons NOT to Invade Iraq, by George Bush Sr.
You are claiming, apparently based on some kind special inside information or higher insight, that Bush Senior didn't in fact believe what he stated above.
If this is the case, then why didn't he in fact invade and occupy Iraq when he had the opportunity to do so? He was under enormous pressure from neoconservatives to do this at the time, and he put his foot down and said no. The angry and vengeful neocons then went into overdrive in their campaign to deny him a second term.
How do you explain the fact that members of Bush Senior's inner circle expressed strong opposition to or doubts about Bush Junior's invasion of Iraq?
Please support your case with well-documented facts and carefully reasoned arguments. Mere surly assertions and childish name-calling are not very convincing.
Someone's got it in for me, they're planting stories in the press
Whoever it is I wish they'd cut it out but when they will I can only guess.
They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy,
She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me.
I can't help it if I'm lucky.
People see me all the time and they just can't remember how to act
Their minds are filled with big ideas, images and distorted facts.
Even you, yesterday you had to ask me where it was at,
I couldn't believe after all these years, you didn't know me better than that
Sweet lady.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your mouth,
Blowing down the backroads headin' south.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.
I ran into the fortune-teller, who said beware of lightning that might strike
I haven't known peace and quiet for so long I can't remember what it's like.
There's a lone soldier on the cross, smoke pourin' out of a boxcar door,
You didn't know it, you didn't think it could be done, in the final end he won the wars
After losin' every battle.
I woke up on the roadside, daydreamin' 'bout the way things sometimes are
Visions of your chestnut mare shoot through my head and are makin' me see stars.
You hurt the ones that I love best and cover up the truth with lies.
One day you'll be in the ditch, flies buzzin' around your eyes,
Blood on your saddle.
Idiot wind, blowing through the flowers on your tomb,
Blowing through the curtains in your room.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.
It was gravity which pulled us down and destiny which broke us apart
You tamed the lion in my cage but it just wasn't enough to change my heart.
Now everything's a little upside down, as a matter of fact the wheels have stopped,
What's good is bad, what's bad is good, you'll find out when you reach the top
You're on the bottom.
I noticed at the ceremony, your corrupt ways had finally made you blind
I can't remember your face anymore, your mouth has changed, your eyes
don't look into mine.
The priest wore black on the seventh day and sat stone-faced while the building
burned.
I waited for you on the running boards, near the cypress trees, while the springtime
turned Slowly into autumn.
Idiot wind, blowing like a circle around my skull,
>From the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitol.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.
I can't feel you anymore, I can't even touch the books you've read
Every time I crawl past your door, I been wishin' I was somebody else instead.
Down the highway, down the tracks, down the road to ecstasy,
I followed you beneath the stars, hounded by your memory
And all your ragin' glory.
I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now I'm finally free,
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt I suffered nor the pain I rise above,
And I'll never know the same about you, your holiness or your kind of love,
And it makes me feel so sorry.
Idiot wind, blowing through the buttons of our coats,
Blowing through the letters that we wrote.
Idiot wind, blowing through the dust upon our shelves,
We're idiots, babe.
It's a wonder we can even feed ourselves.
Copyright © 1974 Ram's Horn Music
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