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âCountdown with Keith Olbermannâ (MSNBC-TV) Oct. 23 - transcript
OLBERMAN: Joining us now, with more on the purported double life of this prominent Muslim-American (Alamoudi) is John Loftus, host of âThe Loftus Reportâ and frequent quest on this show. John, good evening.
JOHN LOFTUS, HOST, âTHE LOFTUS REPORTâ: Good evening, Keith.
OLBERMANN: Well, they sure vetted this guy. How-what happened here?
LOFTUS: Well, you know, itâs a funny story. About a year-and-a-half ago, people in the intelligence community came and said - guys like Alamoudi and Sami al-Arian and other terrorists werenât being touched because theyâd been ordered not to investigate the cases, not to prosecute them, because there were being funded by the Saudis and a political decision was being made at the highest levels, donât do anything that would embarrass the Saudi government.
So, of course I immediately volunteered to do it and I filed a lawsuit, against al-Arian charging him with being a major terrorist for Islamic Jihad, most of his money came from Saudi charities in Virginia. Now, Alamoudiâs headquarters were in the same place, he was raided the same day, on March 20. An hour after I filed my lawsuit, the U.S. government finally got off its butt and they raided these offices.
And, the stuff that theyâre taking out of there now is absolutely horrendous.
Al-Arian has now, finally been indicted, an along with Alamoudi, today. But, who was it that fixed the cases? How could these guys operate for more than a decade immune from prosecution? And, the answer is coming out in a very strange place. What Alamoudi and al-Arian have in common is a guy named Grover Norquist. Heâs the super lobbyist. Newt Gingrichâs guy, the one the NRA calls on, head of American Taxpayers. He is the guy that was hired by Alamoudi to head up the Islamic institute and heâs the registered agent for Alamoudi, personally, and for the Islamic Institute.
Grover Norquistâs best friend is Karl Rove, the White House chief of staff, and apparently Norquist was able to fix things. He got extreme right wing Muslim people to be the gatekeepers in the White House. Thatâs why moderate Americans couldnât speak out after 9/11. Moderate Muslims couldnât get into the White House because Norquistâs friends were blocking their access.
OLBERMANN: How does this tie back into the thing that apparently pulled the stopper out of the drain, if you will --The developers at Guantanamo bay? How rotten is the system of the interpreters and the chaplains -- the Muslim Chaplains that Alamoudi was involved in setting up?
LOFTUS: Itâs as rotten as it gets. Think of the Muslim chaplainâs program that he set up as a spy service for al-Qaeda. The damage thatâs been done is extreme. It wasnât just sending home mom and dad messages from the prisoners. These guys, this network in Guantanamo, stole the CIAâs briefing books. Everything that the CIA knew about al-Qaeda is now back in al-Qaeda hands. Thatâs about as bad an intelligence setback as you can get.
OLBERMANN: John, how does this end up? How far will the investigation into this necessarily have to go to get to the bottom of it?
LOFTUS: Thereâs a lot more to go. Norquist had a lot of other clients. Thereâs a whole alphabet soup of Saudi agencies that funded terrorism in this country. They had an awful lot of protection. And, one of the things we may find about 9/11 is that people out in the field werenât allowed to connect the dots and questions will be asked whether guys like Grover Norquist were part of the problem.
OLBERMANN: I got chills down my spine. The former Justice Department official, John Loftus of radioâs âLoftus Report.â As always John, many thanks.
LOFTUS: Youâre welcome.
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