Re: [CTRL] IRAQ AND VIETNAM

[Sean McBride]

-Caveat Lector- ï All you're doing is venting anti-Catholic bigotry and hatred.  You've still failed to deal rationally, factually and effectively with a single statement in any of the essays of Justin Raimondo, Paul Craig Roberts, Jim Lobe, Robert Dreyfuss, Joshua Micah Marshall, Eric Margolis, Michael Lind, Jason Vest, Brian Whitaker, Kathleen Christison, Maureen Dowd or any of the other articulate critics of the neoconservatives, most of whom are not Roman Catholic.   You also seem to be laboring under the amusing misapprehension that your disorganized and malevolent spew has some "literary" value.  It most assuredly doesn't.  True masters of verbal abuse wield their craft with much more subtlety and wit than you have demonstrated.  You simply flail away.   It's a shame that neocons like Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Michael Ledeen, Douglas Feith, William Kristol and others have made such a conspicuous spectacle of themselves in promoting the Iraq War.  It's impossible to conceal from public view at this point who they are, what their agenda is, and what a horrific mess they've made for the United States.   The Catholic Church was as passionate in opposing the Iraq War as the Israeli government was in agitating for it.  The neocons and the Israelis are now trying to push George W. Bush into attacking Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and nearly every other neighbor of Israel.   The neocons and Israel have put themselves into sharp conflict with the Christian mainstream (both Catholic and Protestant), with Europe, with the United Nations, with a majority of Americans (who now disapprove of Bush's handling of Iraq), and with all those atheists, agnostics and free thinkers who despise Christian Zionists and loopy religious fundamentalists of all stripes, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu or otherwise.   You've managed to create the strong impression here that you are a member of the neocon/Likud camp.  That's your choice, of course.  But you will have to live with the consequences of your bad judgment.   ----- Original Message ----- From: David Sutherland To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] IRAQ AND VIETNAM -Caveat Lector- ? "The conservative writer Paul Craig Roberts, and the foreign policy analyst Claes Ryn, have captured both the spirit and the intellectual pedigree of the neoconservative war policy by calling it "neo-Jacobin."  "     Well ... no.   Not really.   It's more the rants of Neo-Redneckery from the Neo-Silly-Cons like Raimondo. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om