-Caveat Lector-

The main thing to remember about U-S-A politics is the mammon-grovelling
whorishness of the white christian and what-have-you whiners who suffer
from WWW syndrome, eg Duke and his faggot ilk, like Judge Roy Moore.

"Come out of her my people...."

POC
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Sean McBride wrote:

> -Caveat Lector-
>
> George W. Bush, Trotskyite, by Justin RaimondoYou're losing your battle with your 
> inner demons, *DAVIDE*.  Now we understand better your obsession with *JUSTINE*.
>
> You're splattering your in-denial, self-loathing homosexual lust all over the forum 
> in the most revealing and embarrassing way.  It's a textbook case of repression and 
> projection.
>
> Sane heterosexuals do not dwell in loving and heated detail on the imagined 
> activities of homosexuals.  Such activities barely enter their minds, if at all.  
> But you are awash in this stuff -- the obsession is bursting crazily from nearly 
> your every post.  Your posts are disgusting because you are wallowing in 
> selff-disgust.
>
> This syndrome is common knowledge in the United States.  Apparently some Australians 
> are a bit behind in understanding such basic psychological disorders.
>
> More importantly, you have still failed to address any of the particulars in 
> Raimondo's analysis of the role of the neocons in the Bush administration.  These 
> are just a few of the topics you have been unable to get a handle on, apparently 
> because you are an Australian with little or no knowledge of the detailed workings 
> of American politics:
>   Abram Shulsky
>   AEI (American Enterprise Institute)
>   Ahmed Chalabi
>   AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee)
>   AJC (American Jewish Committee)
>   Albert Wohlstetter
>   Ari Fleischer
>   Ariel Cohen
>   Ariel Sharon
>   Barbara Amiel
>   Barbara Ledeen
>   Benador Associates
>   Benjamin Netanyahu
>   Bernard Lewis
>   Christian Zionism
>   clash of civilizations
>   Clean Break paper
>   Commentary
>   Conrad Black
>   CSP (Center for Security Policy)
>   Dalck Feith
>   Daniel Pipes
>   David Frum
>   David Horowitz
>   David Wurmser
>   DLC (Democratic Leadership Council)
>   Donald Kagan
>   Dore Gold
>   Dov Zakheim
>   Douglas Feith
>   Eleana Benador
>   Eliot Cohen
>   Elliott Abrams
>   FDD (Foundation for the Defense of Democracies)
>   Fox News
>   Frank Gaffney
>   FrontPage Magazine
>   Gary Schmitt
>   Gertrude Himmelfarb
>   Greater Israel
>   Henry Kissinger
>   Heritage Foundation
>   Hoover Institution
>   Hudson Institute
>   INC (Iraqi National Congress)
>   Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies
>   Iran-Contra
>   Irving Kristol
>   Irving Moskowitz
>   Israeli art students
>   Jerusalem Post
>   Jewish World Review
>   JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs)
>   John Bolton
>   John Podhoretz
>   Jonah Goldberg
>   Joseph Lieberman
>   Judith Miller
>   Kenneth Adelman
>   Laurent Murawiec
>   Laurie Mylroie
>   Lavon Affair
>   Lawrence Kaplan
>   Leo Strauss
>   Lewis Libby
>   Likud
>   Marc Rich
>   Mark Steyn
>   Martin Peretz
>   Max Boot
>   Meyrav Wurmser
>   Michael Bloomberg
>   Michael Ledeen
>   Michael Milken
>   Michael Steinhardt
>   Midge Decter
>   Mortimer Zuckerman
>   Mossad
>   News Corp.
>   Norman Podhoretz
>   OSP (Office of Special Plans)
>   Paul Wolfowitz
>   PNAC (Project for the New American Century)
>   R. James Woolsey
>   Reuel Marc Gerecht
>   Richard Perle
>   Robert Kagan
>   Roger Hertog
>   Rupert Murdoch
>   Steven Emerson
>   Tom Lantos
>   Urban Moving Systems
>   USS Liberty
>   Valerie Plame
>   Weekly Standard
>   William Bennett
>   William Kristol
>   William Luti
>   William Safire
>   World War IV
>   ZOA (Zionist Organization of America)
> The above persons, organizations and issues are not figments of the imagination, and 
> you have been unable to turn up a single misstatement that Raimondo has made on any 
> of these topics.  You are unable to connect your canned rant on Roman Catholics to 
> the hard empirical data about what is going on in American political life in the 
> year 2003.
>
> Nor will your dishonest tactic of associating the neocons with "the Jews" wash -- 
> many neocons are not Jews, and most Jews are not neocons.  In fact a great number of 
> Jews strongly oppose the neocons, and  are their most articulate and effective 
> critics.  Likud and Ariel Sharon do NOT speak for Jews worldwide -- they represent 
> one faction of the Jewish world.
>
> If you had your finger on the American political pulse, and weren't a crackpot even 
> by Australian standards (Ihug insiders insist that you are on the farthest fringe of 
> Australian politics), you'd understand that a majority of Americans have turned 
> against Bush's war against Iraq, including many Republicans and conservatives.   
> You're promoting a disastrous policy which costs you little as an Australian, and 
> which is becoming intensely unpopular among Americans.
>
> Even some of the neocons who were ringleaders of the war are running hastily for the 
> exits, and are now trying to pretend that they were against the war all along.  They 
> are now promoting the fiction that the war was all Dick Cheney's and Donald 
> Rumsfeld's fault, and that they have had nothing to do with the mess they have 
> helped to create.
>
> Apparently it has unnerved them to realize that the American military establishment 
> and the CIA consider them to be dangerous and unpatriotic enemies.  The outing of 
> Valerie Plame was the last straw for many true American patriots, a group to which 
> you should stop trying to pretend that you have any connection at all.
>
> Mainstream Americans, which include many Roman Catholics and non-fundamentalist 
> Protestants, find your views to be odious.  In fact it would be difficult to find an 
> American even on the most extreme right who is as far off the reservation as you 
> are.  When they do share your hate-filled views, they are usually smart enough to 
> keep their mouths shut.  You manage to make Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and 
> Franklin Graham look like moderates -- quite a feat.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
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