-Caveat Lector- The number of debating fallacies in this piece of garbage are not worthy of you, Mr. S.
POC (LEZ) On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, David Sutherland wrote: > an essay by Richard J. Green > Web Version 1.3. > > Holocaust deniers and Nazi-apologists often make some very revealing claims > regarding Jews, Bolshevism, and Stalinism. They often claim that Bolshevism was a > Jewish movement that resulted in mass murder of Christians on a scale much larger > than the Final Solution. The implication is that even though the Holocaust did not > happen, the Jews deserved it and/or the fact that Stalinists committed mass murder > somehow diminishes the fact that the Nazis and their accomplices committed mass > murder. Even if the Holocaust-deniers and Nazi-apologists had their facts straight, > one would have to wonder at their reasoning. How does the supposed fact that some > Jews committed mass murder justify mass murder of Jews? Notwithstanding, this absurd > and inhumane implication we must, as usual call into question the supposed facts. > > > The Crimes of Stalinism > The crimes of Stalinism are not to be underestimated. That the Stalinist regime > committed crimes of unprecedented magnitude and inhumanity is beyond reasonable > debate. The forced collectivizations in Kazakhstan, Soviet Central Asia, and, of > course the Ukraine 1 took a horrendous toll: > > > The Great Famine of 1932-33 in which 5-10 million lives were lost, was caused in > large measure by the chaos of collectivization. Although agricultural production > declined in the 1930s, the export of grain increased. Robert Tucker calls forced > collectivization a "state-initiated, state-directed, and state-enforced revolution > from above." 2,3 > The brutality of the Stalinist regime is incontrovertible. The Jewish origin of this > brutality, on the other hand is a mendacious claim. > > Was Bolshevism a Jewish movement? > In a post to the Usenet group alt.revisionism, Jacob Minsky 4 demonstrates in no > uncertain terms the absurdity of such a position. First, he quotes Pipes: > > > The census of the Communist Party conducted in 1922 showed that only 959 Jewish > members joined before 1917. 5 > > Minsky then poses the following question to his Nazi-apologist interlocutor: > > Why was the Jewish Labor Bund one of only two political parties (the other one was > the small and heavily Jewish PSR, a democratic socialist party) to unequivocally > condemn in the Congress of Deputies the Bolshevik seizure of power? 6 > > The typical response of the antisemite is to pick out a few prominent Bolsheviks and > claim without evidence that they were Jewish. That Trotsky was a Jew is true, but > antisemites forget to note that he was one of the early and strongest critics of > Stalin and that this criticism cost him his life. Perhaps, a few of the fewer than > 1000 Jews who were early members of the Party were indeed in leadership positions, > but as Aristotle assures us, "One swallow does not a summer make." > Of course, it is ridiculous to blame a single ethnicity for the crimes of the > Bolsheviks. The fact that Stalin was a Georgian does not make all Georgians > responsible for the crimes of Stalinism. Some may argue that it is just as > unreasonable to blame all Germans for the crimes of the Nazis. This point is valid: > guilt should be assigned individually not collectively. Only those Germans who knew > about, or should have known about, the Final Solution, participated in its > execution, or did nothing to stop it when they could have done so, bear blame for > these crimes. Needless to say, young Germans born after the war can only be > blameless. > > Antisemites blame Jews for Bolshevism by use of a few half-truths. By this method, > it could be shown that it was, in fact, Germans who are responsible for Bolshevism. > It is perhaps just as (un)reasonable to blame Germans for the rise of Bolshevism as > it is to blame Jews. Marx, after all, was a German atheist. Additionally, the > political leader of Germany at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution was one of the > Bolsheviks greatest sponsors. > > German Kaiser sponsors Bolshevism > Martin Gilbert has the following to say about the German government's support of > Bolshevism: > > The Bolsheviks had not expected the Austrian and German Governments to be > sympathetic to their revolutionary cause, but policy-makers in both Berlin and > Vienna were eager to support the spread of Bolshevism in the hope, not all that far > fetched, that the Bolsheviks would undermine stable government in Russia and destroy > the warmaking powers of the Tsar. On January 7 [1915-RJG] a Bolshevik group in > Petrograd distributed leaflets to soldiers, workers, and peasants, calling on them > not to pay their monthly rents. That same day in Constantinople, a wealthy Bolshevik > Alexander Helphand, approached the German Ambassador to Turkey with the words: 'The > interests of the German Government are identical with those of the Russian > revolutionaries.' ... Helphand's conversation marked the start of a growing German > interest in stimulating revolution in Russia: an interest that was to be intensified > by the stalemate on the battlefield, and to find its culmination in facilitating the > return of Lenin to Russia, across German soil. Within three months the German > government gave money to an Estonian intermediary to give to Lenin, to encourage him > to pursue his anti-war activities. In fact, he needed no encouragement. > > Gilbert adds a footnote: > > The sum paid over to Lenin was between 200, 000 and 250, 000 Marks, worth at that > time between $50, 000 and $62, 000 dollars. When the Bolsheviks came to pay it back > in 1923, the inflation of the Mark was such that it was worth less than $1. 7 > > Will our antisemitic "friends" blame the Germans for the origins of Bolshevism as > readily as they blame the Jews? To blame either group would, in my view, be > ludicrous. I mean only to point out the hypocrisy of our "friends" who will no doubt > continue to blame the Jews for the Bolshevik Revolution as well as capitalist > exploitation, the ozone hole and the heat death of the universe. > > Stalin Targets the Jews. > In examining the question of whether Stalin was a Jew exterminating Christians, it > might be relevent to examine how he treated Jews. > > > In our context, developments in the Soviet Union, especially after 1948 -the year > of Zhdanov's mysterious death and the "Leningrad affair"- are of greater importance. > For the first time after the Great Purge, Stalin had a great number of high and > highest officials executed, and we know for certain that this was planned as the > beginning of another nationwide purge. This would have been touched off by the > "Doctor's plot" had Stalin's death not intervened. A group of mostly Jewish > physicians were accused of having plotted "to wipe out the leading cadres of the > USSR." 30 ...Moreover, the very content of the absurd accusation against the > physicians, that they would kill off people in leading positions all over the > country, must have filled with fearful forebodings all those who were acquainted > with Stalin's method of accusing a fictitious enemy of the crime he himself was > about to commit. (The best known example is of course his accusation that > Tukhachevski conspired with Germany at the very moment when Stalin was contemplating > an alliance with the Nazis.) ... > The most dramatic new element in this last purge, which Stalin planned in the last > years of his life, was a decisive shift in ideology, the introduction of a Jewish > world conspiracy. For years, the ground for this change had been carefully laid in a > number of trials in the satellite countries -the Rajk trial in Hungary, the Ana > Pauker affair in Rumania, and, in 1952, the Slansky trial in Czechoslovakia. In > these preparatory measures, high party officials were singled out because of their > "Jewish bourgeois" origins and accused of Zionism; this accusation was gradually > changed to implicate notoriously non-Zionist agencies (especially the American > Jewish Joint Distribution Committee), in order to indicate that all Jews were > Zionists, and all Zionist groups "hirelings of American Imperialism." 32 There was > of course nothing new in the "crime" of Zionism, but as the campaign progressed and > began to center on Jews in the Soviet Union, another significant change took place: > Jews now stood accused of "cosmopolitanism" rather than Zionism, and the pattern of > accusations that developed out of this slogan followed ever more closely the Nazi > pattern of a Jewish world conspiracy in the sense of the Elders of Zion. It now > became startlingly clear how deep an impression this mainstay of Nazi ideology must > have made on Stalin -the first indications of this had been in evidence ever since > the Hitler-Stalin pact- partly, to be sure, because of its obvious propaganda value > in Russia as in all of the satellite countries, where anti-Jewish feeling was > widespread and anti-Jewish propaganda had always enjoyed great popularity, but > partly also because this type of a fictitious world conspiracy provided an > ideologically more suitable background for totalitarian claims to world rule than > Wall Street, capitalism, and imperialism. The open, unashamed adoption of what had > become to the whole world the most prominent sign of Nazism was the last compliment > Stalin paid to his late colleague and rival in total domination with whom, much to h > s chagrin, he had not been able to come to a lasting agreement. 8 > > > Thus, it is clear that not only is the claim that Bolshevism was a Jewish plot to > commit genocide against Christians a canard, but the number one culprit of Soviet > mass murder was himself an antisemite and might have tried to finish what our > Nazi-apologists' hero started, viz.the total annihilation of the Jewish people in > Europe. > > The Bolshevik Canard > Notes > > > 1.. Green, Barbara B. The Dynamics of Russian Politics: A Brief History, Westport: > Greenwood Press, 1994, pp. 39-40. > > 2.. Ibid., p. 38. > > 3.. Tucker, Robert C., "Stalinism as Revolution from Above," in Stalinism: Essays > in Historical Interpretation, ed. Robert C. Tucker, New York: W. W. Norton, 1977, p. > 83 as cited in Green Ibid. > > 4.. Minsky, Jacob, Article: 191161 of alt.revisionism,Subject: Re: I AM PROUD TO > BE ON THE NIZKOR ENEMIES LIST,Message-ID: , Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 03:36:26 GMT > > 5.. Pipes, Richard,Russia Under the Bolshevik Regime, New York: Vintage Books, > 1995, p. 113. ISBN 0-679-76184-5 as cited in Minsky, Ibid. > > 6.. Minsky, op. cit. Minsky also cites: Dmitri Volkogonov, Stalin: A Political > Portrait, Volume 1, Moscow: Novosti, 1996, ISBN 4-7020-0025-0. > > 7.. Gilbert, Martin, The First World War: A Complete History, New York: Henry Holt > and Company, 1994, p. 125. > > 8.. Arendt, Hannah, The Origins of Totalitarianism, New York: Harcourt & Brace, > 1979 pp. xxxviii-xl. Her notes are as follows: > [30] Armstrong, op. cit., pp. 235 ff. > [32] Armstrong, op. cit., p. 236 > [op. cit. refers to: Armstrong, John A. , The Politics of Totalitarianism: The > Communist Party of the Soviet Union from 1934 to the Present, New York, 1961-my > note-RJG] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/wpWolB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > ***** What would a Model City plus surroundings for "Good Doers" of the "Axis of > Good" be like, vs. a contrasting city for "Evil Doers" in the "Axis of Evil"? ***** > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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