-Caveat Lector-

How does this square with Medicare? It takes food, clothing, shelter etc.
to stay HEALTHY does it not?

POC

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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:47:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ed Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: FW: Right to Life- After Birth

Yes, but you did not answer the question, Eddie. Please take it back to
Pope Porcus Maximus of Texas and ask again, so that Citizen
not-so-Breitkreuz of Canada's Official Opposition can amend his "pro-life"
bill accordingly. Not-so-Breitkreuz and his party belong to the Cult of
the Womb Kissers. To them a "child" is sacred before before birth and
society has an obligation to sustain the life of that child. Until they
can move at-risk prenatals to new apartments, that means society must also
have an obligation to sustain the life of the pregnant mother for a time.

Alas, this causes great chagrin to the accomplices in the global holocaust
of the poor in which 30,000 (post-natal) children every day are mass
murdered. Alliance makes up for lost time when the child is born. Then,
neither mother nor child have a "right to life" in the strong sense (in
which it is meant) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (to which
Canada is signatory). UDHR says food etc. ie the necessities of life, are
a CITIZENS' RIGHT and the context clearly means society has a commitment
to provide it a la Section 36, Canadian Constitution (Charter portion).

Pope Porcus Maximus should also consider that quaint old Human Rights code
called the Ten Commandments. Compulsory tithing used to be the means of
keeping the poor alive but the libertine-libertarian agenda of today does
not subscribe to compulsory tithing. It only subscribes to the immorality
of market-place supply and demand. If the "free" market wants sex slaves
or kidney transplants or children to abuse, then it shall have it. That is
the new morality (to which your political leaders subscribe). "Thou shalt
not kill"? What is that to Pope Porcus? BTW when did he last subscribe
to the traffic-accident-free cities which can now be built? Here in
the Vancouver core which has 550,000 people in about 36 sq miles we lose
~30 citizens/yr due to traffic fatalities. "Thou shalt not kill" .... how
quaint .... human rights .... so what? Where do we mail the toga and
fiddle for Porcus?

Zandu Goldbar
Learned Elder of Zion
(NOT a "Christian")

     ********* <http://www.geocities.com/CITIZENS_ASSEMBLY> **********
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ed Martinez wrote:

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Right to Life- After Birth
>
>
> November 25, 2003
>
>
> Dear Citizen,
>
> Greetings in the name of our lord and Savior Jesus Christ.  On behalf of
> John Hagee Ministries, we appreciate the support and confidence you have in
> Pastor Hagee�s teachings.
>
> We agree with your assessment that it is terrible the number of children
> that are deprived food and other essential necessities of life.
> Unfortunately the solution to correct this disparity is not easy.
>
> Regarding abortion, God�s view of this act is quite clear.  As you know,
> abortion is equivalent to murder and is sinful in the eyes of the Lord.
> Exodus 20:13, �Thou shalt not kill�, commands us to respect and protect
> human life.   However, God is a merciful God; not only a judge but also a
> Father.  When we truly repent of our sins,  God thoroughly forgives us of
> all our sins and makes us clean in our hearts.  He accepts us in spite of
> our selves, not because of ourselves.  Consider a few  verses regarding
> this:  1John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive
> us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."  I Cor. 6:9-11 "Do
> you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? . . . And
> that is what some of you were.  But you were washed, you were sanctified,
> you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of
> our God."
>
> We pray the Lord will give you discernment and understanding in dealing with
> these issues.  Remember God�s word says, �Delight yourself in the Lord and
> He will give you the desires of your heart.  Commit your way to the Lord and
> He will bring it to pass�. [Psalm 27:4].   We pray that God will fill you
> with His peace and joy for �the joy of the Lord is our strength�. [ Nehemiah
> 8:10].
>
> God bless you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Edward Martinez
> John Hagee Ministries
>
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