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--- Begin Message ----Caveat Lector- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20031221/wl_mideast_afp/i raq_saddam_britain&cid=1514&ncid=1480Saddam was held by Kurdish forces, drugged and left for US troops Sat Dec 20,11:00 PM ET Add Mideast - AFP to My Yahoo! LONDON, (AFP) - Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was captured by US troops only after he had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for American soldiers to recover him, a British Sunday newspaper said. Saddam came into the hands of the Kurdish Patriotic Front after being betrayed to the group by a member of the al-Jabour tribe, whose daughter had been raped by Saddam's son Uday, leading to a blood feud, reported the Sunday Express, which quoted an unnamed senior British military intelligence officer. The newspaper said the full story of events leading up to the ousted Iraqi president's capture on December 13 near his hometown of Tikrit in northern Iraq (news - web sites), "exposes the version peddled by American spin doctors as incomplete". A former Iraqi intelligence officer, whom the Express did not name, told the paper that Saddam was held prisoner by a leader of the Kurdish Patriotic Front, which fought alongside US forces during the Iraq war, until he negotiated a deal. The deal apparently involved the group gaining political advantage in the region. An unnamed Western intelligence source in the Middle East told the Express: "Saddam was not captured as a result of any American or British intelligence. We knew that someone would eventually take their revenge, it was just a matter of time." ---------------------------------------- Can the Bush administration ever tell the truth about anything? Apparantly not. Are we to believe the Kurds returned Saddamn to a "rat hole" complete with a few guns, $750,000 in US currency and detailed papers exposing his connection to the Iraqi resistance? I'm surprised he wasn't discovered sitting on a nuke. <http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aUBP42FLX880&refer=us #> Hussein Was Held by Kurds Before U.S. Capture, AFP Reports Dec. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Saddam Hussein was captured by U.S. troops only after being held prisoner by Kurdish forces, who had had drugged and abandoned him, Agence France-Presse reported, citing a Sunday Express newspaper report. The Kurdish Patriotic Front, which fought alongside U.S. forces during the Iraq war, held Hussien until it negotiated for more political advantage in the Middle East, AFP said, citing the paper, which quoted an unidentified Iraqi intelligence officer. Hussein, who had been in hiding since April, was captured a week ago about 9 miles south of his hometown of Tikrit in northern Iraq, Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, said at a press conference then. (Agence France-Presse 12-21) Last Updated: December 20, 2003 22:28 EST ----------------------------------------------------------- Australian newspaper http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/21/1071941609659.html US Saddam claims being challenged By Paul McGeough Baghdad December 22, 2003 Claims that US troops captured Saddam Hussein have been challenged by reports that he was discovered only after Kurdish forces had taken him prisoner. The deposed president was drugged and abandoned ready for the American soldiers to recover him, a British tabloid newspaper reported yesterday. Saddam came into the hands of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) after being betrayed by a member of the al-Jabour tribe, whose daughter had been raped by Saddam's son Uday, leading to a blood feud, reported the Sunday Express, quoting an unnamed senior British military intelligence officer. Washington's claims that brilliant US intelligence work led to the capture of Saddam are also being challenged by reports sourced in Iraq's Kurdish language media that say its militia set up the circumstances in which the US merely had to go to a farm identified by the Kurds to bag the fugitive former president. American forces took Saddam into custody about 8.30pm local time on the Saturday, but sat on the dramatic news until 3pm the next day. But early on Sunday, a Kurdish language wire service reported explicitly: "Saddam Hussein was captured by the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan. A special intelligence unit led by Qusrat Rasul Ali, a high-ranking member of the PUK, found Saddam Hussein in the city of Tikrit, his birthplace. Qusrat's team was accompanied by a group of US soldiers. Details of the capture will emerge but the global Kurdish party is about to begin." The Western media in Baghdad were electrified by the revelation, but as reports of the arrest built, they relied almost exclusively on accounts from within US military and intelligence organisations, starting with the words of the US-appointed administrator of Iraq, Paul Bremer: "Ladies and gentlemen, we got 'im." A report from the PUK's northern stronghold, Suliymaniah, last week claimed a vital intelligence breakthrough after a telephone conversation between Qusrat Rasul Ali and Saddam's second wife, Samira, which had prompted the Kurds to move units of their Peshmerga fighters to where Saddam was hiding. The report, from the MENA agency, as monitored by the BBC, said the Americans had insisted that it be an American arrest because they worried that such a coup for the Kurds might provoke an Arab-Kurd civil war. A Kurdish member of the Iraq Governing Council, Mahmud Othman, also suggested a critical role for Kurds in the arrest when he said on the Sunday: "Before 4am (more than 12 hours ahead of the US announcement) today, Qusrat Rasul Ali called me to inform me that his men, with the Americans, had managed to capture Saddam Hussein." US intelligence officers have concluded that Saddam was directing the postwar insurgency inside Iraq, playing a far more active role than thought. Despite his bewildered appearance when he was hauled from his hiding hole last weekend, he is believed to have been issuing regular instructions on targets and tactics through five trusted lieutenants. Documents found in Saddam's briefcase indicated that he had been kept informed of the progress of the insurgency, but did not suggest he had overall control of operations by former Baath Party loyalists. But since the arrest and interrogation of guerilla leaders named in the paperwork, US investigators now believe Saddam headed an elaborate network of rebel cells. The investigators have put together a picture of Saddam's support structure, enabling him to issue commands without using satellite phones, which monitoring devices can hear. - with agencies More references to this alternative story on the capture......... Breaking News and Commentary from Citizens for Legitimate Government December 21, 2003 http://www.legitgov.org/ All articles, dates, and links from summaries below are here: http://legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news Please contribute (http://www.legitgov.org/index.html#contribute) today, for December expenses!! We need funds to continue. Thank you. Hussein Was Held by Kurds Before U.S. Capture, AFP Reports --Saddam Hussein was captured by U.S. troops only after being held prisoner by Kurdish forces, who had had drugged and abandoned him, Agence France-Presse reported, citing a Sunday Express newspaper report. We got him: Kurds say they caught Hussein --Washington's claims that brilliant US intelligence [sic] work led to the capture of Saddam Hussein are being challenged by reports sourced in Iraq's Kurdish media claiming that its militia set the circumstances in which the US merely had to go to a farm identified by the Kurds to bag the fugitive former president. Hussein was captured by Kurds, not US --Ousted Iraqi president Saddam Hussein was captured by Kurdish forces, then drugged and handed over to the American forces as a revenge against the rape of a tribal chief's daughter by Hussein's eldest son Uday, a media report said today. Hussein was held by Kurdish forces, drugged and left for US troops --Saddam Hussein was captured by US troops only after he had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for American soldiers to recover him, a British Sunday newspaper said. 'Sick' Hussein drugged: visitor --A startling new photograph of a sick-looking Saddam Hussein suggests he is being drugged or given strong medication by his US captors. The man who took the photo told The Weekend Australian last night Hussein appeared very sick when he was visited by Iraqi Governing Council member Ahmed Chalabi two days after being captured near Tikrit. And the Saddam-Capture Conspiracy Theories Begin --by James Ridgeway "One story making the rounds in Baghdad and Great Britain's Iraqi community concerns a photograph of two American GIs standing beside a date palm tree. The photo was supposedly taken on the day of Saddam's capture. But according to the story, any Iraqi would know that this picture was a fake, because date palms are usually harvested in the summer. In any case, unharvested dates fall off the tree before December, and even if they don't, they are brown and dry, not yellow, as they are in the photo." [Regarding the 'capture' of Saddam Hussein in December:] "We all believe this in the middle east, absolutely NO YELLOW DATES - NO WAY, not possible in December. I live in the Middle East and it is just impossible......yellow dates only May through August... The first thing everyone noticed on the first day of capture was those dates. And I have to say it is true, no date anywhere in the Middle East now, especially Iraq where it is soooo cold in the winter, it seems like a joke to us to see those dates, unless if they were plastic and fake?" --CLG Middle East source, (anonymous) Rumsfeld Visited Baghdad in 1984 to Reassure Iraqis, Documents Show --Donald H. Rumsfeld went to Baghdad in March 1984 with instructions to deliver a private message about weapons of mass destruction: that the United States' public criticism of Iraq for using chemical weapons would not derail Washington's attempts to forge a better relationship, according to newly declassified documents. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. 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