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-Caveat Lector- There was no time for faking the downed lamp posts. That is the
stupidest fantasy of all. There was no time at which hundreds
of random, uncontrollable people in gridlock and in high rises
in Rosslyn did not have the lamp posts in view. Forget any
scurrying MIB's.

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The ..scenario by Mark takes an army of MIB to carry out. Let alone the clean-up crew that has to get rid of the piano-wire device, etal.
No one can produce a witness to the plane after the Pentagon and the hubris of folks who have never been to DC saying that a simple explosion would mask the plane flying over and then to Reagan without being seen is unbelieveable.
If they would ever look at a map they would realize that it's
impossible for a jumbo to skim over the Pentagon roof and
then turn ninety degrees on a dime to land at Reagan National.

Turning the wings steeply would slip air and drop the plane
to the ground, even if it could turn that sharply, and then it
would be going 350 mph, too fast to land.

Why would the whole plot be risked by such a ultra-g maneuver
when all the plane had to accomplish was punch one small hole
in the equivalent of a residential basement wall--the concrete
behind the stone and brick modules was not as thick or strong
as my basement wall. If you put one inch thick bar in a wall
that size it cracks in the winter. Any bar was half inch and
that makes it a basement wall, ten inches was what someone
said? The stone and brick layers have no sideways strength
at all.

Kenn Thomas said there isn't any steel in that concrete, and
we do not see any steel in the small hole photo. The Pentagon
was built hastily during WWII when steel was scarce. We
should see steel in the photo if there was any. If there was
half inch rebar, five or ten thousand gallons of kerosene
travelling in the belly tank at 350 mph would punch a hole
in a little concrete wall like a basement wall. All it took
was one hole. The angle to the wall, if anyone would ever
look at a map, is not forty-five, but nearly sixty degrees.

In the Murrah OKC photo we see steel. In the Pentagon photo
we see no steel in the small hole, so there wasn't much or
Kenn Thomas is right and there isn't any.

Other than the hokey video with the wrong date on it, one
witness who was in Alexandria saw a silver plane that looked
small. It would look small from Alexandria, but silver is correct
for American Airlines.

People in Arlington, however, say a Boeing. Let the people in
Arlington say how big the plane was. They could throw their
gas cap from Navy annex gas station and hit the plane, or
reach a broom up from Courthouse Road and touch the plane.

"Navy Annex" and "Navy Annex gas station" are different places.
The plane did not fly over Navy Annex, but the gas station, which
is more south near the downed lamp poles and Route 27 cloverleaf
which makes a crosshairs. Between the crosshairs cloverleaf and
the gunsight or shotgun bead highrise apartment on the ridge top at
Courthouse Road and Columbia Pike, the plane was skimming ground
with wings level, no amazing high-g turn.

At that time of day it's like a huge stadium full of spectators.
There are even box seats in mezzanine positions. There were
thousands of people in cars in gridlock on a spaghetti tangle
of roads, cloverleafs, ramps, bridges. There were hundreds
in box seats in high rises in Rosslyn and along Columbia
Pike. USA Today has a tall building overlooking the hole.
Then crossing the river there were bridges jammed with
hundreds of people, two, three, four to a car, and along
the other side, more freeways and ramps jammed with
thousands of potential witnesses. Hundreds more had windows
facing any potential plane coming straight at them over the
Potomac to DC. They were already alert since the same
plane had looped over DC a few minutes before at a greater
altitude than when it looped back to the Pentagon.

-Bob




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