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http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/050604E.shtml

The Red Cross Accuses:
    "The Photos are Shocking, but Our Reports are Worse"
    By Afsane Bassir Pour
    Le Monde

    Wednesday 05 May 2004

    Geneva - The International Committee for the Red Cross (ICRC) has
known for a long time that "worse things than what are shown in the
photos" have been taking place at the big Abou Ghraib prison, west of
Baghdad. "We don't need the photos to know what's going on and that it's
not acceptable," says the ICRC spokesperson, Antonella Notari. According
to her, the ICRC had already made several reports and recommendations to
the American and British authorities in Iraq "in the first instance" and
to their superiors in Washington and London "in the second place".

    "The photos are certainly shocking, but our reports are worse," says
Mrs. Notari, who nonetheless refuses to detail the contents of those
reports, in conformity with ICRC standard practice. That's the price the
group pays, she explains, for being able to make "impromptu and regular"
visits to the Abou Ghraib prison every five or six weeks since Iraqi
prisoners have been held there, starting in October 2003.

    "We knew and we had told the Americans that what was going on at Abou
Ghraib is reprehensible." Mrs. Notari categorically denies the statements
of General Janis Karpinski, commander of the units responsible for prisons
in Iraq, according to which "military intelligence men" prevented the
detainees in cell block 1A- where the tortures were practiced- from seeing
ICRC delegates. "We are not simpletons," retorts Antonella Notari, "our
representatives are extremely experienced and they speak to lots of people
inside the prison, we always end up knowing the truth in all the world's
prisons and the truth about Abou Ghraib is shocking."

    "Preventative Message"
    The ICRC demands that the abuses committed against Iraqi prisoners be
punished by the law. "When there is information about torture, sanctions
must be quickly enforced; it's extremely important; it makes the people in
charge of the prisoners responsible and sends a very clear preventive
message to others."

    According to its representatives, if the ICRC has remained "very
discreet" about the abuses, it's only because its reports "have been taken
very seriously" by the Americans. Relations between the United States and
the ICRC are more complicated on the Guantanamo naval base. The
"persistent" refusal of the United States to respect the Geneva
conventions on prisoners of war has actually led the ICRC, for the first
time, to publicly condemn the "illegality" of the arbitrary detention of
the 600 prisoners who are there.

    Since the fall of the Baathist regime in April 2003, the ICRC has
recorded more than 11,000 Iraqi prisoners in Iraq, some of whom have been
released in the mean time. According to the organization, there were two
categories of prisoner in the Abou Ghraib prison: former fighters from
Saddam Hussein's army, who have prisoner of war status; and civilians
interned "for different reasons", but to whom the Geneva conventions- of
which the ICRC has been the steward since 1949- equally well apply. The
ICRC concentrates on "the prisoners who are most vulnerable, that is,
those who are detained for security reasons." The fact that the coalition
used the Abou Ghraib prison "shocked the Iraqi people very much," says
Antonella Notari, "because this prison was famous for the atrocities the
Saddam Hussein regime committed there."

    The NGOs Too...
    The UN is also timidly mobilizing. Tuesday May 4, the High Commission
for Human Rights named "an independent expert" to investigate the
violations committed by belligerents in Iraq. The Icelandic judge Jakob
Moller has been charged with conducting "an evaluation exercise." His
mandate and his resources have yet to be defined. One of the strongest
voices against abuses in Iraq could be that of Theo van Boven. A personage
well-respected by human rights' advocates, this Dutch magistrate is the
UN's special reporter on torture. In a communiqu� on Tuesday, he demanded
"an inquiry, prosecutions, and punishment" as well as reparations to the
victims of these violations.

    Non-governmental organizations are also multiplying their
denunciations. The International Federation for Human Rights has already
called on the Swiss government, as the depositary and agent for the Geneva
conventions, to assemble an international conference, to, as the
Federation's General Secretary put it, "find solutions for the violations
of international humanitarian law committed in Iraq." Human Rights Watch
has demanded that the inquiry be extended to "the superior authorities" so
that it may be known "whether they ordered or tolerated these abuses,
which are possibly war crimes."

     Translation: Truthout French language correspondent Leslie Thatcher.



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