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The New York Times

April 30, 2004
LEGAL CONDITIONS

Private Testimony Isn't Usually Under Oath

By DAVID E. ROSENBAUM

WASHINGTON, April 29 � The arrangement under which President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney testified on Thursday without speaking under oath was consistent with the practices of the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks and with the history of presidential testimony.

Almost none of the witnesses who have testified in private, as Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney did, have been put under oath, said Al Felzenberg, a commission spokesman. He said the investigators had found witnesses to be more forthcoming if they were not sworn. The only time witnesses in private sessions were placed under oath, Mr. Felzenberg said, was when factual matters were in dispute.

On the other hand, all the recent witnesses who testified in public hearings were sworn in. Mr. Felzenberg said the commissioners felt that the public oath was in line with "the solemnity of the situation" and that the public had come to expect witnesses to take an oath at public hearings.

Over the years, the rule of thumb for presidential testimony is that the president is placed under oath when he testifies in a criminal proceeding or a lawsuit, as was the case, for instance, when Bill Clinton gave testimony to Kenneth W. Starr, the Whitewater independent counsel, and in a deposition in the Paula Jones lawsuit.

But presidents have generally not taken an oath when they were testifying before a fact-finding body. No oath was given, for instance, when Ronald Reagan answered questions from members of the commission investigating the Iran-contra affair or when Gerald R. Ford testified before a House subcommittee about his pardon of Richard M. Nixon.


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