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Subject: [INGRAM] Liberal Eugenicist Values in BC
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Labour Welfare Party wrote:
> SOCIAL CLASS WAR!
> Kale
Then count me out as a conscientious objector. The rich and the poor are
always with us. But POC's objection is to the EUGENICS program of
Martin-Campbell in which those not deemed "fit" are sentenced to death. It
is based on fascist values ... no hyperbole. Those who do not comply with
liberal marketplace values are defined as useless eaters, not "fit" to
live and are being given de facto death sentences in BC as we type.
Just spell out in words, ie a "sentence" what HR 2863 says.
DENY that MHR Form/Procedure 2863 for those with and without medical
barriers to employment gives a death sentence for non-compliance, Fascist
Stan. Go ahead and see how you can can't get away with lies online.
Yes or No
Your Form/Procedure is or is not a eugenicist's death sentence.
Zandu Goldbar
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
POC Financier
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Party of Citizens wrote:
>
> > What do you say, Fascist Stan?
> >
> > Z
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] Re: [DisabilityConvention] On new proposed
> > definition
> >
> > With all due respect, I don't think it is definitions which cause the
> > reprehensible eugenics but bad values. These are the same bad values now
> > used by Prime Minister Martin and Premier Campbell to say they and the
> > society at large which they represent have a right to euthanize the
> > useless eaters among the poor of Canada. Those useless eaters include
> > people with "medical disorders that create barriers to employment".
> > Form/Procedure MHR 2863 says that unless such people obey government
> > demands they can be put to death by society.
> >
> > Martin-Campbell oppose the fundamental principle of UDHR which says a
> > human life has INHERENT VALUE. Thus they are applying a eugenics program
> > to those with disabilities as we type, whether you call these conditions
> > disabilities or the phrase in quotes above.
> >
> > If they believe my statement of their position is false, let them say so
> > and save us as well as UNHCHR the trouble of filing.
> >
> > Z
> >
> > The Governments of BC and Canada believe they have the right to torture
> > and kill innocent citizens. The UDHR says otherwise.
> > <http://www.geocities.com/universalhumanrightscanada>
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 6/7/2004 10:01:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > Tanya:
> > >
> > > I agree. Depart from definitions. If we agree to be
> > > 'defective' for an exploitative mental health industry, we
> > > open the door to possibilities that should make any decent
> > > person shudder with horror and fear.
> > >
> > > There is a eugenics agenda afoot at the national level,
> > > being disseminated to all the states through DHHS. Achieving
> > > hegemony of the medical model and tagging a population as
> > > defective ('having deficiencies') is extremely dangerous
> > > talk and policy. But it is happening. It has happened in
> > > other countries. It happened in another time and place on a
> > > massive scale.
> > >
> > > Right now, systems and their sycophants are looking for ways
> > > to exploit and profit from determining a whole population is
> > > deficient. At some point in time, the agenda may become more
> > > sinister than saving costs and making profits. Personally, I
> > > think so, as the medical model is by policy being promoted
> > > in universities and medical schools as the single model. If
> > > you know the history, and I will say this clearly and
> > > plainly, Hitler was tool of psychiatry, not the other way
> > > around.
> > >
> > > In the interests of reality and meeting the circumstances on
> > > a viable political level, I suggest assuming a eugenics
> > > agenda and working from that premise at all times. I believe
> > > it is also important to realize that most advocacy, as it is
> > > funded by drug and system money, is compromised, and many
> > > formerly effective advocacy agencies receiving government
> > > funding are being forced to adopt or promote the medical
> > > nodel or be shut down. This is, imho, a crisis of social
> > > consciousness. Agreeing to be categorized as defective at
> > > this point in time is not wise.
> > >
> > > sue
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.PetitionOnline.com/reformer/
> > > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-clientnet
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Whitehead, Tanya D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 7:31 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [DisabilityConvention] On new proposed
> > > definition
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here is a suggestion. Why don't we move to talking about
> > > "disability" as a legal description. That way we can simply
> > > state that a person who has been designated as "a person
> > > with a disability" by the specific country is considered to
> > > be entitled to the specific human rights under discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Tanya D. Whitehead, Ph.D.
> > > > Assistant Research Professor
> > > > College of Arts and Sciences
> > > > University of Missouri- Kansas City
> > > > 104 Scofield Hall
> > > > 711 East 51st Street
> > > > Kansas City, Missouri 64110
> > > > United States of America
> > > >
> > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > website: http://w.faculty.umkc.edu/whiteheadt/
> > > > Office Phone: 816-235-6407
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: sue poole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Mon 6/7/2004 4:37 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [DisabilityConvention] On new proposed
> > > definition
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I consider allowing others to define my
> > > differences as 'defects' is very dangerous and uncomfortably
> > > close to paving the way for a broad eugenics agenda. At some
> > > point, I believe there is a need to define disability as a
> > > perception or a social construction, not a medical
> > > contingency or impairment.
> > > >
> > > > As for meeting obstacles...There is no mention here of
> > > accommodations or flexibilities on the part of the dominant
> > > culture to reduce barriers to achievement.
> > > >
> > > > At what point can we move away from this blatant eugenics
> > > agenda of the medical model toward something humanistic and
> > > integrated with necessities for relational changes?
> > > >
> > > > Just mulling this over in plain language...
> > > > sue
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I hear what is being said but it seems to me that we have a situation that is
> > > butting heads with itself.
> > > We want to have the definitions or words that would allow a treaty to be made
> > > to give those who are disabled a voice and assure their rights.
> > > But, when we do this we make a class of people whose needs will be the
> > > determining factor in assessing for whom the treaty is meant. As a natural
> > > consequence we will be appointing certain people/ group (s) of people as having
> > > physical, mental, emotional, or social lacks that need to be addressed through
> > > the
> > > government. These groups can then be also made the scapegoats or seen as a
> > > drag on the society and then the past would be able to repeat itself with
> > > specificity.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *** What human rights code should guide homo sapiens off-planet? Will the
> > Universal Declaration of Human Rights suffice? ***
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> >
> > In August, 2001, the popular Ingram show was cancelled, suddenly and without
> > explanation. It was the only televised challenge to the social-political
> > establishment of BC. Why did this happen? What can be done to remedy this assault
> > against our by-Constitution "democratic society"? did this happen? What can be
> > done to remedy this assault against our by-Constitution "democratic society"?
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> In August, 2001, the popular Ingram show was cancelled, suddenly and without
> explanation. It was the only televised challenge to the social-political
> establishment of BC. Why did this happen? What can be done to remedy this assault
> against our by-Constitution "democratic society"? did this happen? What can be done
> to remedy this assault against our by-Constitution "democratic society"?
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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In August, 2001, the popular Ingram show was cancelled, suddenly and without
explanation. It was the only televised challenge to the social-political establishment
of BC. Why did this happen? What can be done to remedy this assault against our
by-Constitution "democratic society"? did this happen? What can be done to remedy this
assault against our by-Constitution "democratic society"?
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