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Friday, July 09, 2004

Secret Agent Man
 

Who are these private citizens who kidnapped Afghans with long beards and tortured them in a private prison in Afghanistan? Well, the one identified as Jonathan Idema, appears to be "Jonathan "Keith" Idema," a fine patriotic paintball enthusiast, former Green Beret, ex-con, "father" of a someday-to-be-cloned dog (I'm not making any of this up), a "civilian" military advisor to the Northern Alliance and the "finder" of all those Al Qaeda videotapes liberated from an Afghan house awhile back.

Yes, this is the patriot who provided one of the greatest intelligence successes of the Afghan War, or at least one of the greatest public relations successes of the war--remember, under Our Leader, perception is at least as, if not more, important than reality. Of course, our government has too distance itself from him now, but there's little doubt that he served as a CIA contractor in the early stages of the war--It was a
CIA operation.

So let's not be too critical of Mr Idema and his colleagues. They may have been working for Our Leader as interrogators with
plausible deniability.

Update:
More on Idema.

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2004_07_01_patriotboy_archive.html#108941476777990819

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Green Beret Zelig sets up own private Afghan prison
by MsSpentyouth
Fri Jul 9th, 2004 at 06:34:06 EDT

As Marshall of Talking Points Memo says, this is just WEIRD, WEIRD, WEIRD.

An American named Jonathan Idema (AKA Jack Idema or Keith Idema) was arrested for conducting a "self-appointed counterterrorism mission that included abusing eight inmates in a private jail by hanging them by their feet."

In some Zeligesque twist of stranger-than-fiction truth, Idema has made headlines over the years as:

The US denies association with Idema and his band of "freelance counterterrorists."

            Q:     Larry, Afghanistan, the three Americans who were arrested. One of them is named Idema.  I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing that right.  But he's supposed to be former Army Special Forces.  Do you have any information about his background?

            MR. DIRITA:  Not much.  I do understand that there appears to be some former military -- he has a military background, but I don't know to what extent, how long he was in the service.  I don't have those dettails.  It's -- there have been a handful of people scooped up, and he's one of them.  But beyond that, I don't think we have much detail.

             (To General Rodriguez)  Do you have anything?

            GEN. RODRIGUEZ:  No, we do not.

            Q     He's not presently in the military?

            GEN. RODRIGUEZ:  No, he's not presently in the military.

Weird, weird, weird.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/9/6346/62231


 



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