-Caveat Lector-

This is rather irritating...your "corrections" are not
correct dude.  I was specific...I said "skeleton of
human" not footprints.  There may be a newer find, in
fact, something rings a bell about that, a skeleton
found in the past few years.  But, footprints are
questionnable as to whether they are apes or
human-types of people.  Lucy is well known as being
the first evidence of humans as we know them.  Trying
to mince words about 10 different varieties, many of
whom are far more ape-like with me, doesn't travel
far.

About "western civilizations"...I meant what I said,
western...not eastern.  And western stuff came out of
the Tigris Euphrates River Valley...I was quoting the
time period of Zoroastians...whom I admire for their
spirituality and amazingly benevolent Jesus-like
prophets (like Zoroaster and Mazda), a group from
ancient Persia c. 1400BC - 800 BC.  I wasn't
particularly concerned about refreshing my memory
concerning Bablyonia, Mesopotamia..etc.  Three
thousand was about right for western civ.

Now about Ice Age...I believe that is about right,
100,000 yrs ago.

The date of the earth...well, this one I may stand
corrected on...I got my figure from what I believed
was a NASA/NOVA program.  I may comment on this more
later...

E. Murray

--- Jacques Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
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> Mr. Murry
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> You wrote:
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> The Ice Age was about 100,000 years ago, the very
> earliest human-like
> skeleton ever found was dated at 50,000 years ago,
> Lucy, and she was very
> small in height and ape-like.  The first mutterings
> of western civilization
> were really only 3,000 years ago.
>
> Mankind has not existed in his current form for very
> long, in fact, for only
> a very short period of relative to the planets.
> Furthermore, earth is only
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> 1-2 million years old...FAR fewer years than billion
> (which is 100 million
> years).
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> You're post is not entirely accurate.
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> How old is the earth: 4+ Billion years?
> http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/a10597.html
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> Oldest human:360 000 years?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2844287.stm
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> Oldest Civilization: 9000 years?
> http://www.spiritofmaat.com/announce/oldcity.htm
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> -or-
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> How old is the earth: 5000 years + or - 7 days
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> Oldest Human: Adam
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> Oldest Civilization:
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> Please understand that I'm not pro Hubbard, but if
> you try to prove
> something wrong, please substantiate your arguments.
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> Jacques Kruger
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