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Subject: [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Ujjal
"Judas" Dosanjh: Talking about TORTURE in Canada...and Canada's new GESTAPO
<http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens>
"Citizens for the inherent dignity and worth of the human person"
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, judith jennings wrote:
> Hi, J.J. again. I wonder what is happening. Have our
> legislators fell on their heads. We are so willing to
> be manipulated.
Your interest is what we need to have magnified x1,000. People have to
think for themselves and figure this out. GLOBAL governance is at issue.
The "DOC Paradigm" is a paradigm for world governance with threats to
health as its mainstay.
Now they speak of a two tier system.
This is the first step of destroying the health and welfare system. The
two are inextricably combined because YOU CANNOT STAY HEALTHY WITHOUT
FOOD, SHELTER AND CLOTHING and it is those 3 which take up almost all of a
"welfare cheque". So a welfare cheque is a PRESCRIPTION for the
essentials, without which people sicken and die.
The "MHR Regimen" is a military regimen as you correctly discerned.
Excellent insight! It takes a sledge hammer to the social security system
in BC. It did so without NDP even figuring out what they were doing.
Medicare MUST be destroyed by Judas Dosanjh. The logic is below.
Two-tiered is just the first step. It is also a kind of smoke and mirrors
distraction because any wealthy Canadian can do south of the border for
treatment already so we HAVE two-tiers.
> We in Canada have a superior health care system that
> has always defended the idea of treating everyone on
> an equal basis.
Sure. Suffering a severe tooth ache is the same if you are rich or poor.
Why would we want to emulate an
> inferior system, that would see a whole family thrown
> into the poor house when one member becomes terminal.
Martin and his fellow billionaires want CHEAP, FORCED LABOUR. The MHR
Regimen/DOC Paradigm provides it.
> There are many instances of the ordering of useless
> tests and ineffective useless and inhumane treatments,
> that serve only to bankrupt the family, and torture
> the poor sick individual,
Bingo. Now you've got it. Torture is the instrument of world governance.
untill his inevitable
> demise.
Right again. If the torture continues it leads to death as happened when
Frank Paul died of exposure in a Vancouver alley. Thus this is the onlyh
legalized capital punishment in Canada.
If you do not have insurance, they find out
> what you do have (house, car, cottage, etc) and how
> much it's worth. Medicine for profit is not medicine.
> Staying away from hospitals is the best thing that can
> be done for ones health in instances like these.
> Wealthy people are often at dire risk too, and are
> taken advantage of for their readily available cash.
> Elite treatments may not be covered, and may be
> experimental, ineffective, or even harmful. They say
> the only way out of that kind of superior treatment is
> when you enter the morgue.
No argument here.
They say this is necessary
> for cutting edge developments, but is that the modus
> opporendi, or how many of these offered treatments
> have a hope of ever being entered into standard care?
> One should not have to pay to be experimented on.
The DOC Paradigm/MHR Regimen are experimental. DOC Paradigm is the classic
T-maze experiment and the people subjected to it are treaed like rats.
One arm of the maze is health destruction and possible death (O); the
other is forced labour to serve the global commercial machine, eg by
working at MacDonalds or Walmart (C). The NEW GESTAPO is D.
Make no mistake about it. MHR is a BOGUS counselling/rehab/therapy
service. It is literally Canada's GESTAPO and unless Judas Dosanjh
investigates and stops its use of HEALTH DESTRUCTION for torture and
control, we will know he is complicit in sustaining it.
Z
Bye
> for now Judith.--- Party of Citizens
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ---------------------------------
>
> <http://www.geocities.com/universalhumanrightscanada>
> "The inherent dignity and worth of the human
> person"
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, judith jennings wrote:
>
> > Hi, J.J. again. What about food for political
> > compliance. Is it not American policy to hand out
> food
> > in the third world with the one hand, and in the
> other
> > hand hold alot of strings attached?
>
> Yes
>
> This is a military
> > stategy, where food is used as a weapond.
>
> Yes and the Liberals of BC and Canadian Governments
> are using it across
> the board toward destroying the entire social security
> system and denying
> the essential services to the poor which are their
> constitutional right.
>
> Step by step they are working at it and Medicare
> itself has to do in due
> course. That is perfect logic. How can you sustain
> threats to food,
> shelter and clothing which destroy health without
> destroying Medicare? The
> medical professionals would have to PRESCRIBE food,
> clothing and shelter
> ay some point to cure and prevent the illnesses
> related to other essential
> service deprivation.
>
> Thus you see the REAL AGENDA of the new Health
> Minister, Ujjal "Judas"
> Dosanjh, as he described by Joy Macphail, MLA on VOBC.
>
> If you do
> > not comply, you will die, a slow and painful death.
>
> Yes. That is the policy used across various BC
> ministries. Deny it is you
> dare, Premier Campbell. Deny it if you dare, Judas
> Dosanjh.
>
> > Are we allowing our gov. to do that in our country,
> to
> > our own citizens.
>
> It is happening every day.
>
> That is one reason we need to monitor the tens of
> thousands of
> "disappearing people", ie the "unreported and
> unaccounted for missing
> persons" taken off MHR and other rolls.
>
> Tell us where they are and about their health,
> Campbell and Dosanjh.
>
> Not all people are able to comply
> > with their demands, nor should they. I know people
> who
> > are being squeezed too.
>
> At the end of the squeeze is exposure-related illness
> and death. Don't
> forget that. Judas Dosanjh won't.
>
> POC
>
> Bye for now J.J.--- Party of
> > Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, judith jennings wrote:
> >
> > > J.J. here. If people reqire help and assistance
> they
> > > should receive it, as it is the mark of a
> civilized
> > > country that it would care for the sick,
> >
> > Hi JJ:
> >
> > I watched a Romanow speech the other night and he
> > said 100,000,000
> > Americans do not have health care insurance. So
> > imagine you have a kidney
> > stone attack which is about as painful a condition
> as
> > one can suffer and
> > the pain may go on for many hours. No insurance and
> > you can't even afford
> > the drugs to kill the pain. So a lot of people
> > states-side must be
> > suffering from a lot of serious health conditions
> > because there is no
> > medicare.
> >
> > Now for talking about what we don't talk about. The
> US
> > system is what
> > Romanow called a commodity in the marketplace
> > approach vs. our "public
> > good" approach. The no-speak begins here. Those
> > pushing the commodity
> > approach cannot help but realize that if you control
> > this commodity of the
> > "essentials" for life and health, you control the
> > population. Health-care
> > destruction which POC is arguing is a kind of
> torture
> > becomes the
> > foundational instrument for world governance ... the
> > new world order.
> >
> > "Health and welfare" ... so intertwined: that was
> once
> > the name of the
> > federal ministry wasn't it? Food, clothing, shelter
> > and medical care.
> > People suffer and die if any of them are inadequate.
> > What Romanow et al
> > dare not talk about is that those attacking food,
> > clothing and shelter (eg
> > Martin, Campbell and Campbell) as Charter committed
> > essentials MUST ALSO
> > ATTACK MEDICARE. Medicare cannot co-exist with the
> > present "MHR Regimen".
> >
> > Why? Because any competent MD would have to
> prescribe
> > food, clothing and
> > shelter for those who are suffering and even dying
> > from want of the
> > essentials. Because such victims of MHR abuse will
> get
> > very sick in a lot
> > of ways and those illnesses are costly. Because the
> > suffering must be
> > sustained for these methods to "motivate" the
> victims
> > and properly
> > prescribed remedies under Medicare would NOT sustain
> > the suffering.
> > Medicare properly administered would destroy the MHR
> > Regimen.
> >
> > It sounds like the MHR Regimen comes from
> states-side
> > where it is part of
> > a global agenda to control the masses by
> systematizing
> > torture of innocent
> > and peaceful populations by threatening destruction
> of
> > their health.
> >
> > No-speak ... big time.
> >
> > POC
> >
> > even when it
> > > is not as easy here to make a huge amount of money
> > > from the needs, as it is in the U.S.--- Party of
> > > Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > That's all our new link says: If governments here
> > are
> > > so proud of their
> > > torture methods, why not spell them out in more
> > > detail?
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 15:56:54 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [BCPOLITICS] [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] re
> > > Deliberately Induced
> > > Respiratory Illness as MHR Torture Method
> (fwd)
> > >
> > > Dear Prime Minister Martin, Premier Campbell and
> > Mayor
> > > Campbell:
> > >
> > > Your "DOC Paradigm" is as factual as the
> > > structures/facilities in downtown
> > > Vancouver which give us the acronymn. Since you
> > > believe that
> > > person-to-person psychological torture
> (threatening
> > > illness and death) is
> > > a proper "motivational method" we are just asking
> > that
> > > you spell it out
> > > in fine detail for the benefit of the entire world
> > > with our new link
> > > below. Presently as our audiotape soon to be sent
> to
> > > UNHCHR reveals, MHR
> > > "workers" only give a few details of how much
> > > non-complaint "clients"
> > > will suffer; only a few details on how much their
> > > health will be destroyed
> > > and their lives placed at risk if Overpass is
> their
> > > next stop after
> > > Dockside.
> > >
> > > POC
> > >
> > > The Governments of BC and Canada believe they have
> > the
> > > right to torture
> > > and kill innocent citizens. The UDHR says
> > > otherwise.
> > >
> > >
> >
> <http://www.geocities.com/universalhumanrightscanada>
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 15:39:17 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: elvira52 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] re Deliberately
> > > Induced Respiratory Illness
> > > as MHR Torture Method
> > >
> > > On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, elvira52 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Right on Baby,
> > > >
> > > > THE LONE ACTIVIST & Humanitarian award winner
> > 11/03
> > >
> > > We've added a link from the home page to the "DOC
> > > Paradigm" which sets out
> > > the standard procedure at MHR Dockside: Go to the
> > > killing ground at
> > > Overpass or go into a forced pre-employment
> program
> > at
> > > Cook (Hence the
> > > "DOC" acronymn).
> > >
> > > Overpass is one of the killing grounds where the
> > > psychological torture at
> > > Dockside is turned into physical torture and
> death.
> > >
> > > The point we are making on the new link is that
> the
> > > "DOC Paradigm" is
> > > FACT and that if the governments of this country
> are
> > > proud of it, why not
> > > spell it out more clearly?
> > >
> > > For example if the client-victims do not comply
> they
> > > go to Overpass and
> > > the kind of repiratory illnesses which you brought
> > up
> > > may be part of the
> > > physical torture induced. Now we have audiotape
> > > evidence which will soon
> > > go to UNHCHR that MHR "workers" are telling their
> > > victims SOME of the
> > > physical horrors they will experience for
> > > non-compiance, but why stop
> > > there? Why not IMPROVE the "program" and add to
> the
> > > motivation ... you
> > > know how they did it with the gory smoking videos!
> > >
> > > When you show and tell how these DELIBERATELY
> > INDUCED
> > > illnesses function
> > > they become at least as hideous as the more
> > > "traditional" methods of
> > > torture which MHR might like to use (eg pulling
> out
> > > fingernails with
> > > plyers) but dare not use because they are
> > politically
> > > incorrect.
> > >
> > > DELIBERATE? Beyond any doubt. The forms/procedures
> > > like HR 2863 say so.
> > > The front-line "workers" as captured on audio-tape
> > say
> > > so. KNOWING ...
> > > PREMEDITATED .... SYSTEMATICALLY PRE-PLANNED
> MEDICAL
> > > TORTURE.
> > >
> > > POC
> > >
> > > > Elvira
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Party of Citizens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "elvira52" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > > re June 7, 2004 My House is killing me.
> > > >
> > > > > Respiratory illnesses of all kinds are also
> > caused
> > > and exaccerbated by
> > > > > outdoor exposure, eg by forcing people into
> > > homelessness. Sleeping on top
> > > > > of a piece of cardboard with a light blanket
> > over
> > > the shoulders is typical
> > > > > here, eg under the Portside overpass on Main
> > > Street. Over 1,000
> > > > > Vancouverites are DYING (not "living") this
> way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mayor Dr. Larry Campbell makes sure that the
> > > illness and suffering are
> > > > > severe by denying even a pup tent for shelter.
> > > > >
> > > > > POC
> > > > >
> > > > > The Governments of BC and Canada believe they
> > have
> > > the right to torture
> > > > > and kill innocent citizens. The UDHR
> says
> > > otherwise.
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> <http://www.geocities.com/universalhumanrightscanada>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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