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--- Begin Message ----Caveat Lector- BrianFirst, apologies for the insult, I did delete it if you look. I always check my sources, lunatic catholics have no credibility, neither does Larouche especially when he's talking about the UK or about fabian socialism. He just sounds like brainwashed Joe sixpack on those subjects. Tavistock is a giant Larouchian boogeyman too. The Beatles angle is just so much nonesene I am not willing to go further. R. D. Laing , a highly respectable political extremist worked at Tavistock. I'd trust his judgement before some space cadet like Larouche. TQM is such a completely American zombie project, there is no need to look elsewhere. Concensus based decision making and learning is a valid project for a psychology institute. Only Americans would have used it in such an evil way against their own people. Only Americans would be dumb enough to accept it. It is now in the UK, but the CIA destroyed our unions in the 1980's, so there is no opposition. Here is an excellent article on the whole subject http://www.ovrlnd.com/Cults/BrainwashingAmerica.html I happen to hate the whole thing myself, but not as much as I despise conflict resolution, another new age American 'can do' fantasy. If you're interested in mind control, the story of Edward Bernays and the creation of American marketing and consumerism is fascinating. There was a completely incredible 4 part BBC documentary called the century of the self about the influence of Freud and the use of his theories. It coverd Bernays very well indeed. http://www.medialens.org/alerts/2002/020403_de_Media_Century.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2002/02_februar y/28/centuryoftheself.shtml UNITED Fruit, The cia, and counter-Revolution http://revolutions.truman.edu/guatemala/united%20fruit,%20the%20cia,% 20and%20counter%20revolution.htm --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Salter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2004, at 4:39 AM, scol202 wrote: > > > > I decided to read the link you provided about Tavistock and your > > credibility fell to minus 50. Here is one of the tapes for sale. > > > > the link i provided was not because of it's catholic ideology, but for > it's research. virtually every single fact there can be verified with > the info i provided in my subsequent post, 'TQM and scenario planning', > or by doing some searching. there are abundant references to > tavistock's role, to be found in the vast amount of material available > on organization development. the fact is, i have totally backed up my > points about the origins of modern OD / OT. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <FONT COLOR="#000099">Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 </FONT><A HREF="http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/vseplB/TM";><B>Click Here!</B></A> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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