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--- Begin Message ----Caveat Lector- Brian Salter wrote:> > On Aug 20, 2004, at 11:10 AM, Bob wrote: > > > VonKleist, who both wrote and produced this masterpiece, asks in the > > film, "How does a plane 125 feet wide and 155 feet long fit into a > > hole which is only 16 feet across?" > > The fuselage was not 125 feet or 155 feet in DIAMETER. > > > > Why would anyone but a con artist spammer mention 155 feet in length, > > as if the plane would have to fit through SIDEWAYS to please these > > people? > > > > How wide is a belly tank carrying seven or eight thousand gallons of > > fuel, a > > mass capable of caving in the flimsy stone veneer and bricks between > > steel > > beams? > > the fuselage hole was just big enough to fit a 757 fuselage, and the > busted-out area below it at ground level was wide enough to accomodate > the span between the two engines, including the engines. isn't this > the case? the size of the entry hole on it's own doesn't seem to > reliably contradict anything. > > there are anti- flight 77 theorists who do acknowledge that the hole is > a plausible match for a 757: > > > We do not claim that the Sugano results can be used to definitively > > establish exactly what the hole in the Pentagon should have looked > > like, if it in fact had been struck by a 757. Due to the many > > complexities of the structural analysis of such a crash, the exactly > > "correct" impact hole size and shape is simply an imponderable for > > both the crime scene investigator and the perpetrator alike. What we > > are saying, is that the hole in the Pentagon does appear (at least in > > its basic size and shape) as a plausible outcome of a 757 crash, > > although questions do remain about the specific nature of damage to > > the columns and the interior features of the Pentagon offices. > http://www.911-strike.com/missing-confetti.htm > > -brian VonKleist is caught arguing that the hole would have to be as wide as the plane is long to please him, which is to say that he is shoving it in our ear sideways. When I receive emails employing that kind of argument to further a too good to be true or least likely scenario, I call it spam and con artistry. Dick Westman was caught saying that 14th St Bridge is west not east of the Pentagon, and then again saying he "said east but he meant west". He needs to cut and splice 14th St Bridge witnesses into a different place in the chronology and flight path to set up a false meme, and VonKleist is cut off at the ankles when we realize he is arguing the hole would have to as wide as the plane is long to please him. -Bob ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <FONT COLOR="#000099">Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! </FONT><A HREF="http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/vseplB/TM";><B>Click Here!</B></A> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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