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Sep. 6, 2004. 01:00 AM

Detainee hearings descend into farce

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1094249412481


The Bush administration is ignoring, if not defying outright, the U.S. 
Supreme Court's ruling that all terror suspects must be able to challenge 
their imprisonment.

The opening round of detainee military tribunals at Guantanamo Bay last 
week resembled something between a Mel Brooks farce and the kangaroo courts 
of former Ugandan dictator Idi Amin. Maybe Captain Kangaroo courts.

The proceedings didn't look anything like justice, military or otherwise. 
Meanwhile, two U.S. citizens still sit in military brigs, isolated from 
their lawyers and months if not years away from the hearings the high court 
says they deserve. The U.S. criminal justice system, including its military 
stepchild, is supposed to stand for due process, impartiality and openness.

These are the same principles, after all, that U.S. troops are fighting � 
and dying � to seed in Iraq and Afghanistan. But the slapdash preliminary 
hearings for the first four of some 600 Guantanamo detainees violated basic 
tenets of fairness. The tribunals are an ad hoc invention, authorized by 
President Bush three years ago when he rejected the established military 
court-martial system and the federal criminal courts, either of which would 
have worked more smoothly.

The tribunal's chief officer is a retired Army judge, the only member of 
the panel with legal training. He is both the judge and a jury member, 
ruling on motions and voting with the five other commissioners. In a 
criminal court, the lay jury decides the facts and the judge rules on 
questions of law. Here, however, tribunal members decide on both. Yet the 
five nonlawyers were clearly befuddled last week when asked to define 
concepts such as due process and reasonable doubt.

The cards are stacked against detainees in other ways, too. Government 
prosecutors got spacious quarters and their own staff to prepare for the 
hearings. Military defence lawyers were crowded into one room. Midway 
through the week, the conference table they all shared was removed.

No photographic, video or audio recordings of the hearings will be 
released. From the government's perspective, perhaps the less that 
Americans know of these bumbling proceedings, the less they'll care.

The two U.S. citizens that Bush has labelled as enemy combatants, Yaser 
Hamdi and Jose Padilla, haven't gotten even this much.

Years after their arrests, each remains in a military brig, often in 
solitary confinement. Even after the Supreme Court's declaration that they 
have a right to a hearing, government lawyers outrageously are fighting 
every lower court petition filed by lawyers retained by the men's families. 
And still the government has filed no charges against Hamdi or Padilla.

The Supreme Court made itself clear in its June rulings: Terror suspects 
are entitled to at least bare-bones due process. For government lawyers to 
insist otherwise is unprecedented.

This is an edited excerpt of an editorial from the Washington Post.

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The Psychology of Revolution by Gustave le Bon
<http://www.encyclopediaindex.com/b/psrev10.htm>http://www.encyclopediaindex.com/b/psrev10.htm

The aim of these considerations is to recall to the reader the fact that 
the outward events of revolutions are always a consequence of invisible 
transformations which have slowly gone forward in men's minds.

Any profound study of a revolution necessitates a study of the mental soil 
upon which the ideas that direct its course have to germinate.

         -Gustave le Bon  



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