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-Caveat Lector- Imagine Osama bin Laden thinking like a Palestinian suicide bomber,
willingly identifying with the 911 mission though knowing that one
way or another success there would bring an end to his role if not his
life. Imagine his motivational puppetmasters secretly wanting to get
rid of Osama and the Taliban in order to get poppies growing again
in Afghanistan.
Remember that we were taught that Lucky Luciano wanted to keep
the mafia OUT of the heroin trade. Was Taliban's ban for real? Was
Osama the Lucky Luciano of Afghan Poppy Prohibiton more like
Eliot Ness the Untouchable or the REAL Lucky Luciano as opposed
to the movie version? Mehdi Man, or Made Man?
Vigilius Haufniensis wrote:VMANN: (quoting hopsicker): When all of the nationalistic andAtta dressed and acted like a gangster, the hijackers may have co-piloted
"fundamentalist" jingoism is > > stripped out, we think the 9/11 attack will
ultimately prove to
> > be about what most wars are about: money. Maybe the secret
> > history of 9/11 is: "its the drugs." A falling out between
> > two business partners. A double-cross. A deal gone wrong.
>
TIM: OK - you got me. I completely forgot about that passage, but I
> remember reading it, and puzzling over how Hopsicker could
> possibly say such a silly thing based on his own evidence.
> I'll have another read of that chapter tonight and see if
> I can make sense out of it. For now it looks like I have to
> concede that you have a point. This does not change the
> fact that Hopsicker's book is of great value.
> > Thanks for digging out that reference.Tim Howells
VMANN: no problem dude. i wholeheartedly agree that hopsicker's book is of
great value. my take on reading it was that there was more info he had that
he had to confirm yet, maybe in another book.
vigilius haufniensis
>
> > Wally Hilliard's own pilots talked freely about the nature of the
> > endeavor going on around them.
> > "I flew Wally's Turbo-Commander to Venezuela and then got detained
> > in Haiti on the way back, because both U.S. Customs and the DEA
> > wanted to inspect the aircraft," said one pilot who flew for
> > Hilliard. "When I asked them what was up, they said the plane you
> > are flying is known to be smuggling drugs in and out of the
> > country."
>
> > "Another time, one of our planes was being serviced in Jamaica and
> > they called and said 'You need to pay us $10,ooo to get the log
> > books back," recalled the pilot and aviation executive. "There's a
> > fee involved.' When I asked why, they said, 'Because the plane was
> > supposed to fly a drug run and something had gone wrong and it
> > hadn't kept its commitment."
> >
> > US officials spoke of the drug connection to 9/11 only in the
> > immediate aftermath of the attack. "Frankly, we can't
> > differentiate between terrorism and organized crme and drug
> > dealing," Assistant Attorney General Micheal Chertoff told a
> > Senate Banking Committee hearing about the terrorists' money trail.
> >
> > Osama bin Ladin controlled the herion trade in Afghanistan. And
> > Afghanistan controlled the heroin trade worldwide, producing as
> > much as the rest of the world combined. His organization was said
> > by officials to derive much of its funding from heroin and opium.
> >
> > Even today, two years after being deposed, the Taliban are said to
> > be deeply involved in a trade which last year generated sums said
> > to be at least equal to the amount being spent on reconstruction
> > aid for the country.
> >
> > Today we think back to a comment made to us by a Special Forces
> > Commander who was working out of McDill AFB in Tampa and who'd just
> > reutrmed from Afghanistan. He offered an off-the-cuff but candid
> > assessment of the reasons for the hostility between the US and
> > the "Evil Ones." that led to the heinous September 11 attack.
> >
> > "The Taliban were launching an effort to take over the worldwide
> > heroin trade." stated this grizzled beteran of recent rescue
> > missions behind enemy lines matter-of-factly. "They were going to
> > use that as a basis to move into cocaine distribution as well.
> > They were planning on supplanting the Cali Cartel."
> >
> > We Wondered: Whose nose might have gotten bent of of join over
> > that?
>
> OK - I have to admit that I see your point - Hopsicker is certainly
> making no sense here.
>
> Tim Howells
> > TIM: Please provide the citation for Hopsicker saying
> > > that "bin ladin group was attempting to take over the
> > > worldwide heroin trade, and had plans to horn in on the
> > > cocaine trade." I don't believe he said anything like this.
> >
> >
> > VMANN: he quotes the grizzled special forces commander, then
> states that he supports that view. he doesnt provide specific
> information to back that particular claim up, other than the
> extensive criminality (including drug running) of everyone
> surrounding the participants in 9/11 and all the people surrounding
> those people.
>>
> >
> > TIM: His conclusion was that there was beyond a doubt massive
> > > drug trafficking going on at the "Flight Schools" in Florida
> > > implicated in September 11, and that these operations
> > > enjoyed protection from the highest levels of the US
> > > Government. Hopsicker has demonstrated this fact beyond a
> > > shadow of a doubt.> Tim Howells
> >
> >
> > VMANN: yep. then he sort of leaps to the conclusion about the
> drug war. id like to see him put up more evidence to support that.
> > im not saying i dont like hopsicker. i think he rules. but this
> is how i interpret what he is saying. how am i wrong?
> > vigilius haufniensis
drug smuggling flights, Atta was funded by Pak ISI heroin junta through
Omar Saeed Sheikh, a muslim prison gang leader who in his own words
"lived like a mafia don". Atta was Omar Saeed Sheikh's disciple. Heavy
gold jewelry and five minute visits only mean one thing in Florida or
anywhere else in the world--Mehdi Man, Made Man, whatever you call
OG this week.
Osama bin Laden had won a battle in the global drug war, whether the
poppies were either really not growing or were growing under his control,
but he had not won the WAR. Turnabout is fair play whether Osama had
made himself the heroin godfather of Afghanistan by suppression("pass
a law") or by gaining control("pass a law make a job").
Pak ISI heroin junta and Osama both supported the Taliban, but Taliban's
religious-based ban on poppy growing was a genie out of the bottle that Pak
ISI wanted desperately to put back in the bottle. The ban may have suited
Osama bin Laden if it was really a ban, not a monopoly he controlled behind
another fake drugwar trojan, or if it was another clandestine financing
source behind a fake drugwar trojan. Whether it was a real ban, or whether
Osama used drug funding to support terrorism, Pak ISI wanted to put the
sharia genie back in the bottle as far as a ban on growing poppies.
Pak ISI and the Saudi monarchy both benefited from pruning back Osama
bin Laden's influence over Pak and Saudi internal islamic fundamentalism,
and from diminishing Osama's share of control over the international
strategic weapon asset of islamic terrorism, even if Osama willingly
suicided his position to accomplish a spectacular terrorist success (911).
The entire history of Saud family control is one of a delicate balance of
cultivating and manipulating and pruning the Wahabi religion. Osama
merely took that asset international, and then the Saudis were not the
only shareholders anymore.
It is likely that Pak heroin junta's dependence on heroin financing, and
consequent dependence on US mercenaries to get the poppies growing
again in Afghanistan in 2001-2002, assures third party approval would
be necessary for Pakistan to initiate a nuclear war with India, which is
to say it will not happen. Maybe Pak ISI engaged in nuclear blackmail
to get the US to insure Pak ISI political control in Pakistan, but more
than likely it was just about money. The Pak nuclear program was
always more about diversion of funds than strategic reality.
When he was researching the book, Daniel Hopsicker refused to draw
any conclusions or to reference publicly any connection to "global
heroin politics" such as longterm CIA affiliation with Pak heroin junta.
He was finding plenty to do in Florida and evidently chose not to spread
himself too thin and then face peripheral interview questions as he
had heard when introducing his other Porter Goss book, Barry and The
Boys.
The animosity of Pak ISI toward Afghan northern alliance leader Masud,
who was assassinated by Pak ISI days before 9/11/2001, goes back to the
1980's when US-made shoulder-fired Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, a
strategic and determining factor in the Afghan-Soviet war that began
in 1979. As CIA proxy, Pak ISI traded 90% of the missiles CIA supplied
quid pro quo for heroin with Afghan heroin godfather Heroin Hekmatyar.
CIA always claimed it was powerless to make the merit-based choice and
give the missiles to Masud, claiming that Pak ISI was acting independently
in preferring reverse-merit choice Hekmatyar over Masud. Hekmatyar was
subject to sanction due to always killing Masud's field commanders, and
later Hekmatyar rocketed a tribal leader conference in Kabul after the
Soviets had left. CIA always claimed Pak ISI was responsible for donating
US Stingers to Heroin Hekmatyar, but in retrospect it does appear that
Russell Opium Trust(ROT) was trading Stingers for heroin in the 1980's.
In 2001 ROT traded US mercenaries for muslim terrorist mercenaries in
the first round of bartering.
It was reminiscent of CIA's perennial obsession with destroying any
French or Chinese influence in Vietnam that when Porter Goss went
to Pakistan in August 2001, Masud was assassinated by Pak ISI. The
m.o. smacks of Lansdale and Conein eliminating the Corsican influence
and Bin Xuyen and CIA's preference for Hekmatyar over Masud in the
1980's Afghan-Soviet war.
Daniel Hopsicker points out in Flight of the Goss-amer Condor that
the morning of 911 the same method as used for the assassination of
Masud the week before was used to try to assassinate somebody at the
hotel in which president Bush had slept the night before. Was there
an fake assassination attempt to exonerate Bush or a real assassination
attempt by Pak ISI? I think they think we're stupid enough to think that
a fake assassination attempt on Bush the morning of 9/11 exonerates
Bush and Goss, because we would never hear that Pak ISI financed
Atta, or that the Florida 911 fake assassination method was the same
used successfully against Masud the week before. How would the fake
assassins in Florida know which hotel to go to?
-Bob
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