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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:28:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Historia Ecclesiastica
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, judith jennings wrote:
> J.J. here. Sorry I'm such a wimp out on this stuff. He
> never said to preach in the name of the F, S & HS.
> That was added later. The squeeky wheel gets it all
> EH? The anti-semite bill ummm. interesting, is an
> anti-semite bill all right EH? If you are a true
> beleiver then what ? not - anti-Christ, OOOps yrr otta
> here. **B-L-A-H. Fun stuff. Bye for now Judith.
Bingo. It is OK to be Anti-Christ but not OK to be Anti-Anti-Christ.
How can one get more Orwellian than that?
Z
> *******************************************************---
> Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ---------------------------------
> If you are camping out take your umbrella but remember
> that Jesus Christ
> said, "The rain falls on the just and on the unjust".
>
> Zandu said:
>
> The rain falls on the just and on the unjust
> But it falls more on the just fella
> Because the unjust fella has the just fella's
> umbrella.
>
> Z
>
>
> <http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens>
> Citizens for the "inherent dignity and worth of the
> human person"
> Quoted words from UDHR/CAT
>
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, judith jennings wrote:
>
> >
> > scroll down --- Israelite Knight
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > >Wayne Franklin Poley wrote:
> > > JKKK (Dr. Danny Amneus) is a white-fascist bigot
> > whose
> > > ideas that only
> > > white people have right of return to Israel are
> as
> > > absurd as the ideas on
> > > right of return of the Edomite Jewish Nation.
> >
> >
> > No Israelite is claiming any "right of return" to
> any
> > place. Israelites
> > don't need to grovel like jew beggars for welfare
> > handouts. Nor beg the
> > British Empire to kick the Ottoman Empire out of
> > "their homeland" that not a
> > single jew ancestor ever set foot on. Nor whine for
> > 52 years "we're God's
> > chosen people" even though God made them so morally,
> > mentally, and
> > physically depraved that they got ZERO Gold Medals
> at
> > same time the
> > Israelites He created won thousands of them.
> >
> > 95-99% of Israelites were long gone from Judaea by
> the
> > time of the
> > Babylonian captivity in 587 BC, and there's not a
> > single reason for even one
> > of the billion Israelites on the planet today to go
> > "back" to "their
> > homeland".
> >
> > > > joo joo whined:
> > > > Edomites, the sons of the other brother Essau.
> > ummmm.
> > > > They have so usurped the usurper, in the end
> EH?
> >
> >
> ********************************************************
> > I am not whining about it. As far as I can see they
> > are industrious people, and worked hard. You whine
> > about them, as I recall. I am happy where I am. I'm
> > just wondering if I should ever visit. If they would
> > spit on me then perhaps it would be mindful of me to
> > go elsewhere, ei:camping out, is what I like.
> >
> >
> *******************************************************
> > Edomites are the descendants of Esau, not his
> brother.
> > His brother was
> > Jacob, and all descendants of Jacob are Israelites.
> >
> > The "jews" in "Israel" make the following claims
> about
> > their "ancestry":
> >
> > 1) They're descendants of Esau (which means they
> > cannot be Israelites).
> >
> > 2) They're descendants of Ashkenaz (who was a
> > descendant of Japheth, one of
> > Shem's brothers, which means they wouldn't be
> Semites,
> > much less Hebrews,
> > children of Abraham, nor Israelites).
> >
> > 3) They're descendants of the Khazars who
> "converted"
> > to "Judaism" in the
> > 9th Century AD (about the STUPIDEST thing an empire
> > could ever engage in,
> > but something that would mean they are not Semites,
> > not Hebrews, not
> > children of Abraham, and certainly not Israelites).
> >
> > So while "American" jews are whining that they're
> the
> > true Israelites, all
> > other jews and even most "American" jew writings
> claim
> > just the opposite.
> >
> > But since jews ALWAYS lie, then none of the above
> > theories or claims are
> > correct );
> >
> >
> > John Knight
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Party of Citizens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 4:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC]
> Historia
> > Ecclesiastica
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I agree with you that preaching to
> ultra-resistant
> > Edomites like
> > > JKikeKikeKike is a waste of time. Also, there is
> > something to consider
> > from
> > > what the Edomites sometimes put forward against
> the
> > Gospels. They say it
> > was
> > > ALL MADE UP ...a fiction.
> > >
> > > If so, it is also a metaphysical THEORY and that
> > causes us to feed back
> > to
> > > them their own position. You cannot read the
> Gospels
> > with COMPREHENSION
> > > unless you are so dedicated to TRUTH that it
> becomes
> > more than obsession.
> > It
> > > is a FIXATION.
> > >
> > > "The light shineth in the darkness and the
> > darkness comprehended it
> > not".
> > > Read that again, JKKK.
> > >
> > > Now if those "Nice Jewish Boys" have a better
> > metaphysical theory in a
> > > 2-hour read, a better and more truthful story of
> > Torah personified, let's
> > > hear it.
> > >
> > > You've heard of the X Prize. Let's give them the
> Z
> > Prize. How about that
> > > for a project inside Yidrael? One million shekels
> > for a better 2-hour read
> > > than "The Greatest Story Ever Told".
> > >
> > > Z
> > >
> > >
> > > Zandu Goldbar
> > > King
> > > Loges-de-Corbeaux
> > > Alberta-BC Border Loges-de-Corbeaux
> > BC-Alberta Z6Z 6Z6
> > CANADA
> > > 666-666-6666
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens
> > >
> >
> >******************************************************
> > Do you really prepose to go to 'Yidrael' with this?
> > >From what they say you would sent squarely to the
> big
> > house. Like what you said already, don't bother with
> > telling the edomites anything. They already have
> > everything they want anyway. Mostly they do not want
> > our Dear L-rd. What I know about those 2 nice jewish
> > boys is, I said no more than what I wrote to you. I
> > just told them to see what would happen - I knew
> > something would happen. Why? They were receptive,
> > curious, and they knew there must be something more.
> > They had come to that conclusion before they came to
> > me with questions. As for the Gospels being fiction,
> > that is a very curious concept. For some I think
> that
> > it is and always will be a fiction, but to those
> that
> > were witnesses to such events, that is another
> story.
> > We cannot deny that which we know to be true. That
> > doesn't mean that I would preach in 'Yidrael'. If I
> > went there I am sure that I would be like alot of
> > other people, wandering around in a daze, pondering
> > many things, and saying little. I know that people
> > like me concider it to be an important place, an
> > homeland, however I don't think that there is a law
> > that says I must make a pilgimage there within my
> > lifetime. Our Dear L-rd though well loved there, did
> > not exactly get treated well by the powers that be,
> > did H-? I know that H- well could have been declared
> > the King and forever, some have said that H- was,
> but
> > this is water under the bridge to them. If they
> don't
> > have it in them to know H-m so be it. Why would I
> want
> > to rock the boat. They have their form of
> observances,
> > that may well serve them to some good extent. Our
> Dear
> > L-rd did not try to compel the unwilling, and
> > unreceptive, but spoke to them in parables, that
> > sounded nice, and were many layered containing
> levels
> > of truth. If they did not have the insight to
> > comprehend, H- would not spell things out to them.
> Let
> > the chips fall where they may. H- is and ever shall
> be
> > a gentleman, not a pusher, like alot of so called
> > evangelists have become, and they do more to turn
> > people away than anything else I can think of. The
> > Muslims claim to beleive that H- was and will
> return,
> > but somehow they deny H-s humanity, saying H- did
> not
> > suffer, as we do. To be fully human and also the
> true
> > Son is more than mose people can conceive. Take
> care,
> > You sound like you have a nice adress.
> > > Add this card to your address book
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "judith jennings"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 4:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC]
> > Historia Ecclesiastica
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Edomites, the sons of the other brother Essau.
> > ummmm.
> > > > They have so usurped the usurper, in the end
> EH?
> > > > Interesting. But mostly, deny the L-rd or else
> > your're
> > > > otta here. Oh well. I might have a confession
> to
> > make.
> > > > It is my policy to not try to preach to anyone
> > that
> > > > has a beleif system already, but if someone
> asks
> > a
> > > > question of you, that is another story. I am a
> > > > respecter of persons that way, and there was
> > some
> > > > mysterious questioning going on about me in a
> > > > classroom situation, about Xianity, and these
> > were 2
> > > > nice jewish boys. I said, U don't need to read
> > the NT,
> > > > you don't need to go to church, you don't need
> > to
> > > > confess your faith publicly, but steal a BCP
> > (Book of
> > > > Common Prayer) from Christ Church Cath. and
> > together
> > > > alone go through the bread and wine ritual,
> and
> > then
> > > > see what happens. It was a blast. They got all
> > their
> > > > prayers answered in no time, and I hope that
> > they were
> > > > wise in what they asked for, but it was a
> mov'en
> > > > place, after that. Fun EH! Boy did I sin that
> > day!??
> > > > Bye for now -Judith.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> *******************************************************---
> > > > Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, judith jennings wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > J.J. here. You mean street preaching, or
> going
> > door
> > > > to
> > > > > door?
> > > >
> > > > I think it covers all forms of public
> > > > preaching/teaching including mass
> > > > media and that gets you up to 3 years in jail
> in
> > > > Israel. Cannot have tv or
> > > > radio stations preaching/teaching in "The
> Jewish
> > > > Nation" that Jesus Christ
> > > > is Torah personified and that He said He came
> > only to
> > > > find the lost sheep
> > > > of Israel. If that message is accepted, then
> the
> > > > "right of return" would
> > > > have to be accorded to those who believe the
> > teachings
> > > > of Jesus Christ. As
> > > > it stands, only Edomite Jews of different
> > > > denominations have right of
> > > > return.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know much about their anti- Christ
> > > > > policies.
> > > >
> > > > You can't miss it. They broadcast it. If a Jew
> > (ie
> > > > Edomite Jew) becomes an
> > > > atheist, they can still claim right of return
> > but not
> > > > if they become
> > > > followers of Christ. Rev. Mohler, President of
> > SBTS
> > > > debated this with a
> > > > rabbi on CNN a few years ago. Mohler said it
> was
> > > > absurd. It is. Golda
> > > > Meier once lamented the problem of national
> > cohesion
> > > > in a nation in which
> > > > there are, as she said, some 30% atheists.
> Does
> > this
> > > > impress you as the
> > > > kind of people who Jacob-Israel would want to
> > return
> > > > to the Promised Land?
> > > > Jacob was certainly no atheist. So by what
> > criterion
> > > > do they claim right
> > > > of return? Biological-genetic?
> > > >
> > > > > I don't know about Jkkk's credibility.
> > > >
> > > > JKKK (Dr. Danny Amneus) is a white-fascist
> bigot
> > whose
> > > > ideas that only
> > > > white people have right of return to Israel
> are
> > as
> > > > absurd as the ideas on
> > > > right of return of the Edomite Jewish Nation.
> > > >
> > > > If
> > > > > you are right, and I would take your word, I
> > suppose
> > > > > they feel theatened by H-m even to this day,
> > and
> > > > would
> > > > > repeat their crime against H-m.
> > > >
> > > > I last saw Rev. Jim Bevel of Martin Luther
> King
> > and
> > > > associates on tv with
> > > > Imam Farrakhan and the Million Man March. Jim
> > once
> > > > gave me a sermon in
> > > > Nebraska about, in his words, "The Difference
> > Between
> > > > an Afro-American and
> > > > a Nigger". One of his favourite sayings is:
> "If
> > you
> > > > ever catch Jesus
> > > > lying, you be sure and tell Him". Jesus Christ
> > did not
> > > > lie when He said
> > > > "You will be hated of all people" and "You
> will
> > be
> > > > hated of all nations".
> > > >
> > > > Prime among the haters of Christ and haters of
> > the
> > > > followers of Christ are
> > > > the Edomite Jews. It is their hate for
> > ISRAELITES
> > > > because of the ancient
> > > > conflict of Jacob and Esau. See
> > > > <http://www.geocities.com/ISRAEL_V_EDOM>.
> > > > An expression of that hate is their USURPING
> of
> > > > Israel.
> > > >
> > > > I am sure H- would
> > > > > twist church peoples nose out of joint too,
> > don't
> > > > you
> > > > > think.
> > > >
> > > > Big time!
> > > >
> > > > The people of that land followed after H-m
> > > > > where ever H- went, but it was the religious
> > > > > establishment that accused H-m. They did not
> > care
> > > > for
> > > > > the common man, but in their supposed
> > superiority,
> > > > > dispised them all.
> > > >
> > > > What did Jesus Christ say? "Many who are first
> > will be
> > > > last; and the last
> > > > will be first". MANY. Now that is one of the
> > most
> > > > revolutionary,
> > > > establishment-upsetting political doctrines
> ever
> > > > issued.
> > > >
> > > > As in the sands of the dessert, you
> > > > > dig a well to provide free access to water
> on
> > demand
> > > > > to all the people, the overlords will
> protest.
> > They
> > > > > feeling entitled to taking all the earnings
> of
> > the
> > > > > people for that commodity, feel cheated, and
> > see to
> > > > it
> > > > > that the well is broken, and the people go
> > back
> > > > > thirsty and impoverished.
> > > >
> > > > That is exactly what the TECHNOPRIESTS are
> doing
> > today
> > > > at the behest of
> > > > the TECHNOLORDS by giving us shoddy SW like
> the
> > kind
> > > > we are using now. See
> > > >
> >
> <http://www.geocities.com/AI_TEACHING_MACHINE/page21>
> > > > (and other pages).
> > > >
> > > > I was on religious debate
> > > > > uncensorded, and asked, if the diciples
> > beleive on
> > > > > Christ, do they excommunicate them from
> > judeaism
> > > > > because of their belief? Do they have faith
> > trials
> > > > to
> > > > > discover and uncover the malifacters that
> > beleive on
> > > > > Christ among them.
> > > >
> > > > Good for you. BTW, this posting of yours is
> > FIRST
> > > > RATE. It highlights the
> > > > important issues in religious "totem and
> taboo"
> > which
> > > > is a mainstay of
> > > > this list.
> > > >
> > > > How do we test for TRUE ISRAELITE FAITH? There
> > are
> > > > questions we can ask
> > > > like "What would a Culture of Life be like"
> (to
> > pope
> > > > and president who
> > > > repeatedly use this phrase as loosely as
> drunks
> > > > speaking in a beer
> > > > parlour)? DO THEY KNOW? Then tell us about it!
> > > >
> > > > I am sure alot of students that
> > > > > have studied and have open minds have come
> to
> > > > beleive,
> > > > > don't you.
> > > >
> > > > Good students ask good questions. But you will
> > never
> > > > see either those good
> > > > questions or good answers on Christ-hating
> pray
> > tv
> > > > like NOW TV here in BC.
> > > >
> > > > "Take my yoke upon you and learn of me" said
> The
> > > > Master. "The word Torah
> > > > means teaching" says my De Sola Poole
> > Traditional
> > > > Jewish Prayer Book.
> > > >
> > > > Is this a a-la middle ages thing coming on?
> > > > > I am also sure that there are alot of
> > prominant,
> > > > > educated, and well known Isrealis that
> beleive
> > in
> > > > > secret, don't you? Bye for now Judith.
> > > >
> > > > Well, now JJ, you've outdone yourself with
> that
> > > > question. Let's discuss it
> > > > some more with the Edomites. But first a funny
> > story.
> > > > Where did I get my
> > > > Traditional Jewish Prayer Book? From a strange
> > sort of
> > > > rabbi before he
> > > > passed away. He had a large private collection
> > of rare
> > > > "revisionist" books
> > > > and was a very well-read man. He also used to
> > make
> > > > pilgrimages to Hayden
> > > > Lake to burn crosses. He explained the ritual
> to
> > me as
> > > > originating in the
> > > > Arenas of Rome when the White Fascists (JKKK's
> > > > spiritual ancestors) COATED
> > > > THE ISRAELITE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST WITH TAR AND
> > USED
> > > > THEM TO LIGHT UP THE
> > > > ARENAS. Oh yes, "The Rabbi" also spoke some
> > Hebrew
> > > > which he had learned as
> > > > a child in the prairie provinces when his
> family
> > ran
> > > > whiskey across the
> > > > border for the Bronfmans. His "white
> supremist",
> > white
> > > > bed sheet wearing
> > > > congregation sometimes laughed about how with
> > that
> > > > magnificent shnozzola
> > > > he just might be "a jew".
> > > >
> > > > Speaking of Rome, consider this. There are
> > 6,000,000
> > > > tombs in the hundreds
> > > > of miles of catacombs beneath the city: the
> > result of
> > > > the Ten Great
> > > > Persecutions that Eusebius describes in
> Historia
> > > > Ecclesiastica ca. 300 AD.
> > > > Some 10% are designated as "Jewish" (Edomite)
> > and 90%
> > > > are designated
> > > > Israelite.
> > > >
> > > > Now imagine the era and the migration of
> > Edomites and
> > > > Israelites to Rome
> > > > after the Romans sacked Jerusalem especially.
> > Who are
> > > > the TRUE ISRAELITES?
> > > > Which Jews? The Jews who believe that Jesus
> > Christ
> > > > told the truth in
> > > > saying He came only to find the lost sheep of
> > Israel
> > > > or the Edomites who
> > > > retained the name "Jew" for a longer time than
> > St.
> > > > Paul et al?
> > > >
> > > > Zandu Goldbar
> > > > $$$$$$$$$$$$$
> > > > Learned Elder of Zion
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> *******************************************************
> > > > > --- Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > It's not blather when public teaching of
> > > > Christianity
> > > > > can get you up to 3
> > > > > years in jail in the officially ANTICHRIST
> > NATION,
> > > > > Yidrael.
> > > > >
> > > > > Z
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > <http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens>
> > > > > Citizens for the "inherent dignity and
> worth
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > human person"
> > > > > Quoted words from UDHR/CAT
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, judith jennings wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the straight dope on this stuff still
> > comes
> > > > out
> > > > > as
> > > > > > dope and dupe too..J.J. Don't be dupped,
> and
> > don't
> > > > > > bother with this blather. Isn't this post
> > rather
> > > > re
> > > > > re
> > > > > > of a re post. Someone with a martyr
> complex
> > with
> > > > > > delusions could bother, not I. J.J.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> *******************************************************
> > > > > > --- Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > > What about a Global Anti-Christism
> Awareness
> > Act?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Z
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > <http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens>
> > > > > > Citizens for the "inherent dignity and
> > worth of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > human person"
> > > > > > Quoted words from
> UDHR/CAT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Israelite Knight
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > An anti-semite is anyone the Jews
> hate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Close, but no cigar. The jews define an
> > > > > anti-Semite
> > > > > > as anyone who even uses
> > > > > > > the word "jew", whether or not the jews
> > hate
> > > > them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It would require the State Department
> to
> > > > appoint
> > > > > > an envoy to monitor
> > > > > > > > anti-Semitism worldwide, explore its
> > causes,
> > > > and
> > > > > > produce an annual
> > > > > > > > report
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is a swell idea. But even the US
> > > > government
> > > > > > can't operate for long
> > > > > > > with such a bill without at least first
> > > > defining,
> > > > > > and thus understanding,
> > > > > > > who are Semites and who are NOT.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > By their own admission and writings,
> jews
> > are
> > > > not
> > > > > > descendants of Shem, so
> > > > > > > they're not Semites. But both
> Israelites
> > and
> > > > > > Ishmaelites [read: modern
> > > > > > > Arabs] are descendants of Abraham, who
> was
> > a
> > > > > > descendant of Shem, which makes
> > > > > > > them the true Semites.
> > > > > > > http://christianparty.net/israelites.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All jews worldwide HATE Semites, whether
> > > > > Christians
> > > > > > or Muslims, so it's jews
> > > > > > > who are the real anti-Semites. I would
> > love to
> > > > > see
> > > > > > an exhaustive annual
> > > > > > > report about the REAL anti-Semitism
> > practiced by
> > > > > > jews posted in Congress
> > > > > > > similar to the one at
> > > > > >
> > http://christianparty.net/jewishmassacres2.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If Congressmen have too much FEAR OF THE
> > JEWS to
> > > > > at
> > > > > > least do that, perhaps
> > > > > > > they should just add the above to the
> > > > > Congressional
> > > > > > Record and save their
> > > > > > > [read: OUR] money.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John Knight
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Whitey Whigger"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: "Solano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:53 AM
> > > > > > > Subject:
> [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC]
> > Global
> > > > > > Anti-Semitism Awareness Act
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > An anti-semite is anyone the Jews
> hate.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Global Anti-Semitism Awareness Act
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Another step in Jew takeover of US &
> > rest of
> > > > > > world:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > US diplomats baulk at Jewish bill
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > By Jill McGivering
> > > > > > > > US State Department correspondent
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The US State Department has raised
> > objections
> > > > to
> > > > > a
> > > > > > bill approved by
> > > > > > > > Congress that would require it to set
> up
> > an
> > > > > office
> > > > > > on anti-Semitism.
> > > > > > > > The bill, the Global Anti-Semitism
> > Awareness
> > > > > Act,
> > > > > > is expected to be
> > > > > > > > signed into law soon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It would require the State Department
> to
> > > > appoint
> > > > > > an envoy to monitor
> > > > > > > > anti-Semitism worldwide, explore its
> > causes,
> > > > and
> > > > > > produce an annual
> > > > > > > > report.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It has had strong and vocal support
> from
> > many
> > > > > > Jewish groups.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > State department spokesman
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > State department officials oppose the
> > bill,
> > > > > saying
> > > > > > it is unnecessary.
> > > > > > > > They argue they already have an
> > impressive
> > > > track
> > > > > > record in tackling
> > > > > > > > anti-Semitism and have proved it is a
> > > > priority.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anti-Semitism is already covered in
> > their
> > > > > general
> > > > > > reports on human
> > > > > > > > rights and religious freedoms, they
> say.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > State Department spokesman Richard
> > Boucher
> > > > said:
> > > > > > "Our feeling was
> > > > > > > > that the issue of anti-Semitism is
> > something
> > > > > that
> > > > > > has been important
> > > > > > > > to us, that we have been active on and
> > is
> > > > > > adequately covered by our
> > > > > > > > efforts and by all the other reporting
> > that we
> > > > > > do."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Many Jewish groups have lobbied hard
> and
> > been
> > > > > > highly critical of the
> > > > > > > > state department for its position.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Powerful community
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They see the recent rise in
> > anti-Semitism as
> > > > > > something of acute
> > > > > > > > concern which does warrant special
> > treatment.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The state department already has other
> > special
> > > > > > offices, handling, for
> > > > > > > > example, Tibet and women's issues.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jess Hordes, the Washington director
> of
> > the
> > > > > > Anti-Defamation League,
> > > > > > > > says: "This is a significant problem.
> > It's a
> > > > > > problem that arose in a
> > > > > > > > fairly sudden and surprising way over
> > the last
> > > > > > couple of years and it
> > > > > > > > does require special attention.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "If we're going to deal with it in an
> > > > effective
> > > > > > way, we need to get a
> > > > > > > > better handle on the nature of the
> > problem."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The bill has now gone to the White
> > House. It
> > > > is
> > > > > > expected President
> > > > > > > > Bush will sign it into law.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > America's Jewish community is small
> but
> > > > powerful
> > > > > > and historically
> > > > > > > > favours the Democrats.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But with the presidential election
> > looking
> > > > > > extremely close, their
> > > > > > > > choices this time, especially in
> states
> > like
> > > > > > Florida, could be
> > > > > > > > crucial.
> > > > >
> > > > > ***** Let us talk about what we are not
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