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-Caveat Lector- There has been at least one confirmed report of a suspected terrorist in
Central America. U.S. and Panamanian officials say Saudi native and alleged
al-Qaida leader Adnan G. El Shukrijumah stayed in Panama for 10 days in
April 2001, five months before the Sept. 11 attacks.

There also are fears El Salvador could be hit by terrorists for supporting
the U.S.-led mission in Iraq.

Recent reports of possible terror activity in the region have been more
questionable.

In May, here in Tegucigalpa, the hilly Honduran capital, two witnesses said
they saw El Shukrijumah at an Internet cafe downtown, sparking rumors he was
recruiting gang members.

U.S. officials have been scouring the globe for the 29-year-old Shukrijumah,
and have offered up to $5 million for his capture. But a senior U.S.
official in Central America, speaking on condition of anonymity, said there
was no evidence he was ever here.

http://www.sitbot.net/htm/18473.html

Shukrijumah (aka "the next Atta") apparently seems to be threaded into the
1993 bomb plots by way of his father's connection to Clement Hampton-El.
But more strangely, it seems that Shukrijumah will make his way into the
Oklahoma City Bomb thread by way of his Florida connection with "dirty
bomb" guy Jose Padilla. To shore up the Oklahoma thread, we also have the
Zarqawi/Moussaoui/ Nick Berg connection.

But let's step back and take a stab at guessing at what is happening here.

The new legends will be used to strengthen the foundations of the old
ones. In parallel to the official account, however, the existing counter-legends
will also be beefed up. In short, the narratives are getting all too
muddled with the growing interlinking chains. The growing complexity of
these new interlinking legends will operate to turn off a good portion of
those who might be seriously interested in examining the truth behind
9/11.

And what of the rest of us? Will we be locked in a never-ending cycle of
polarized argument - with each of us picking his favorite conspiracy
thread? How many of us will look at Shukrijumah and see the fingerprints of
Iran? How many of us will look at the Canadian clique and sense the hand of
Syria behind it all? And if they find that the next operation was pulled off
with forged New Zealand passports, how many of us will dig up the newspaper
account of the Mossad/ New Zealand passport scandal and go "Aha! Once
again the Israelis!"

And what about the anthrax thread? In recent months, a writer by the name
of Ross Getman has been posting accounts that read like excerpts from a
future Official 9/11 Sequel Report. Going by Getman's writings, it would
appear that a possible Boston connection would involve anthrax by way of
Aafia Siddiqui's connection to Brandeis University and its anthrax
facility. Also note that a first sighting of Shukrijumah and Jdey a year ago
occurred in Maine, where they were spotted driving with a Massachusetts
license plate.

So, to sum up: Shukrijumah seems to be part of a "dirty bomb" or
radiological thread, while Siddiqui seems to be part of an anthrax thread.

Perhaps the Shukrijumah/Jdey/Siddiqui clique is planning a bi-coastal
attack involving radiological materials (or perhaps an attack on a nuclear
facility) and a simultaneous attack involving anthrax. Shukrijumah has
been marketed as an "Atta-level" pilot.

Whatever the case, a definite evidentiary trail seems to be clearly laid
so as to give the impression of the dots connecting up. Shukrijumah was
also spotted recently in the Honduras, but I wouldn't give that one much
credence. The Denny's item seems the most likely to be resurrected
post-facto as an example of institutional incompetence and blindess.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=Shukrijumah
http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/adnan.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=Shukrijumah+canada
http://www.sitbot.net/cgi-bin/htsearch.cgi?words=Shukrijumah

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0819adnan19.html
An FBI spokeswoman in Arizona said news reports that a notorious terrorism
suspect may be planning to cross the Mexican border into the United States
are overblown and outdated.


http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2177173,00.html
2 suspected al-Qaeda agents dropped in for meal, says Denny's
manager in Avon

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38662
One person of interest, said the report, would likely be 32-year-old Aafia Siddiqui, a Pakistani woman with a doctorate in neurological science, as well as a man Siddiqui has been linked to, Adnan G. El Shukrijumah a suspected member of al-Qaida.
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roadsend said:

Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:57:27 -0400
From: "Bruce Tefft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Al-Qaida operatives recruiting Central American gang members

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/aplatin_story.asp?category=1102&slug=
Latin%20Gangs%20Terror

Thursday, October 21, 2004 . Last updated 2:23 p.m. PT

Honduran official says al-Qaida recruiting

By WILL WEISSERT
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras -- It's a U.S. Homeland Security Department nightmare,
and Honduras' most outspoken Cabinet member says it's happening: Al-Qaida
operatives recruiting Central American gang members to carry out regional
attacks and slip terrorists into the United States.

Yet U.S. and Central American officials say they have found no evidence
supporting Honduran Security Minister Oscar Alvarez's allegations. And human
rights groups accuse Alvarez of trumping terrorism reports to justify his
crackdown on gangs, who in response have adopted terror-style tactics such
as beheadings - 20 so far - and threatened the government.

Romulo Emiliani, a Roman Catholic bishop working closely with gang members
in the northern city of San Pedro Sula, called the reports "an attempt to
distract the public while the government puts thousands of youths in jail."

The U.S. government has long worried terrorists would tap into smuggling
networks that move migrants and narcotics across Mexico's porous northern
border and into the United States.

To combat those fears, Mexico has worked with the United States to keep a
close eye on drug and smuggling activity. It also has made it much harder to
enter Mexican territory legally if a person comes from a country with terror
ties.

Alvarez, however, has stoked fears that terrorists are joining migrants
crossing illegally into Mexico from Central America, then moving north.

A spokesman for Mexico's National Immigration Institute said officials have
caught "a significant number" of people from the Middle East trying to sneak
into the United States from Mexico, although he refused to release exact
numbers. One smuggler was arrested recently for allegedly moving Iranians
and Iraqis into the United States.

There has been at least one confirmed report of a suspected terrorist in
Central America. U.S. and Panamanian officials say Saudi native and alleged
al-Qaida leader Adnan G. El Shukrijumah stayed in Panama for 10 days in
April 2001, five months before the Sept. 11 attacks.

There also are fears El Salvador could be hit by terrorists for supporting
the U.S.-led mission in Iraq.

Recent reports of possible terror activity in the region have been more
questionable.

In May, here in Tegucigalpa, the hilly Honduran capital, two witnesses said
they saw El Shukrijumah at an Internet cafe downtown, sparking rumors he was
recruiting gang members.

U.S. officials have been scouring the globe for the 29-year-old Shukrijumah,
and have offered up to $5 million for his capture. But a senior U.S.
official in Central America, speaking on condition of anonymity, said there
was no evidence he was ever here.

Alvarez, a former private security consultant educated at Texas A&M,
acknowledges he sometimes releases information that isn't confirmed, saying
the reports keep Honduras' population alert to potential threats.

"I prefer that people live with the fear of possible danger than feel safe
and have something happen," he told The Associated Press.

"Look at what happened in Spain. The people there felt safe, and they
weren't," he added, referring to the al-Qaida-linked March 11 train bombings
in Madrid that killed 191 people.

When pressed for details of al-Qaida's alleged ties to Honduras, Alvarez
could not remember the name of the Internet cafe where El Shukrijumah was
allegedly spotted. He ordered his office to find the information, but after
an hour of searching, staff members said it was classified.

Alvarez, who is mulling a future run for president, was appointed security
minister in 2002 to beat back rampant gang activity and has championed a
zero-tolerance law that made membership in a street gang illegal and
punishable by up to 12 years in prison.

While the initiative has been popular with Hondurans tired of crime, gang
members have responded by beheading victims and leaving brutal warnings for
Honduras' government on notes left with the bodies.

One note this spring read, "Idiots, the end of the world is approaching."
And a message early this year said, "The next victims will be police and
journalists."

The decapitations began Aug. 20, 2003, 13 days after the zero-tolerance law
took effect and outlawed the country's gang members, who use extortion and
violence to control everything from the drug trade to the country's bus
routes. There have been an estimated 20 terrorist-style beheadings in a
little more than a year - about one a month.

Alvarez said there also was evidence gang members might be joining terrorist
organizations. He said three Honduran government informants told authorities
that four suspects from "somewhere in the Middle East" had smuggled $1
million in cash into Honduras to finance a migrant-smuggling operation
controlled by the Mara Salvatrucha street gang, which has a strong presence
in Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador and southern Mexico.

Guatemalan President Oscar Berger classifies links between gangs and
terrorists as "rumor," and his Interior Secretary Carlos Vielmann said at
this month's Interpol meeting in Mexico that "there hasn't been any
indication that such ties exist."

The head of Interpol in Central America, Salvadoran police director Saul
Hernandez, and Mexican Interior Secretary Santiago Creel also say they have
no evidence supporting the theory.

One Mara Salvatrucha gang member, Jose Manuel Sarmiento, scoffed at the idea
of teaming up with al-Qaida or other Islamic militants.

"We hang out with our homies on the street. How would we know how to make
contact with terrorists?" the 19-year-old said in an AP interview from a
sweltering jail cell in San Pedro Sula. "I've seen al-Qaida, but on
television only."

Ernesto Bardales, a sociologist who founded a private rehabilitation program
for former gang members, said exploiting terrorism jitters is a way of
keeping the anti-gang law popular.

"People were terrified of gangs, but now the streets are quiet," he says.
"How do you scare people again? With terrorists."

Alvarez counters that constantly talking about terror ensures terrorists
skip Honduras in favor of quieter destinations.

"When terrorists feel threatened or discovered, they look for other places,"
he said.

Asked if he believed his country and neighboring nations really were
swarming with terrorists, Alvarez is resolute.

"Time will prove me right," he says. "In time, everyone will see."

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Please let us stay on topic and be civil.

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