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From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: July 3, 2005 7:51:52 PM PDT
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Subject: [cia-drugs] How Holmgren distorts evidence


Lt Col Art Holbo's nazi hoes are taking Joel Sucherman
out of the video where he stands with Mike Walter and
completes Walter's testimony. I see Mike Walter point
to the Rt 27 overpass a few feet away, give his account,
then Joel Sucherman takes over to describe the crash.
Funny, Gerard Holmgren and Brian Gumbel are nowhere
to be seen. Similar to the DVD where the fire hose or
foam spray obscures the wing hole in the Pentagon
west wall, while Holbo's devotee narrates that the
hole(the upper fuselage hole) is too small for AA77,
the Boeing 757 which was seen to crash there. Are
you tired of fuzzy bin Laden videos and bloodless
beheading videos and planeless small plane videos?
Well Holmgren has a Sucherman-Walter video for
you with no Joel Sucherman in it, but a lot of some
fuzzy, bloodless, plane-less spin doctor in it.

Nothing is left to the prurient imagination unless you
take Joel Sucherman out of the video. They walk the
very ground, on camera, about which Gerard Holmgren
meanly puffs and poses in his pedantic effort to fulfil
propaganda officer Holbo's deepest yearnings and
wildest fantasies. Or, to use his metaphor, Holmgren
"cherrypicks" by choosing to hear from Walter alone,
not Sucherman and Walter in tandem, when they are
featured in the same video, walking the ground
together about which Holmgren and Ibid Ferry
feign to inform us.

That's the local DC channel 9 Eyewitness news video
from minutes after the crash, where Lt Col Art Holbo,
USAF propaganda officer, preps for his nazi ho Pentagon
small-plane Big Lie security cam video which could not
be released until FBI mopped up all local area security
cam videos, USAF's small plane vid showing us as much
small plane as a Nick Berg beheading shows blood, then
these nazi hoes suck Holbo's toes by "cherry-picking"
which videos, which witnesses from the same frame,
as we have to put up with Ibid Ferry's life of federal
corruption coverup.

Do not forsake me, oh my darling,
ever blinkered nightful nazi hoes,
for whom your tumbrels really roll.

Blinkered night his window broke.
More HMX from sidewalk nazi hoes,
shanghai sunshine willing no one.

...Bring It On.

-Bob

Rosalee Grable wrote:

http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/154107#154726



How Hoffman distorts evidence
by *Gerard Holmgren*
..........
Mike Walter's account:

I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings. It went right there and
slammed right into the Pentagon.
while leaving out the earlier part of his account:
I looked out my window and I saw this plane, this jet, an American
Airlines jet, coming. And I thought, 'This doesn't add up, it's really
low.'
In the context of his full account, it is clear that Walter was using
"cruise missile with wings" to describe the way the plane was being
flown, not the kind of plane he saw. ]].........

http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/witness2.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/witness2.html>

Below is a summary of what my research on Walter found, but I recommend
reading the link above to get the full picture

Hoffman says "In the context of his full account..."

And exactly *which* full account would that be, Jim ?

Perhaps the one where he told Bryant Gumbel that he saw a full on impact,

""I was on an elevated area of Highway 27 and I had a very good view. I
was stuck in traffic. We weren't moving and--and I could see over in the
distance the American Airlines jet as it kind of banked around, pivoted
and then took a steep dive right into the Pentagon."

and then when Gumbel responded with

GUMBEL: Did you see it hit the Pentagon? Was the plane coming in
horizontally or did it, in fact, go on its wing as--as it impacted the
building?

To which Walter responded with

Mr. WALTER: You know, the--the--the--there were trees there that kind of
obstructed it, so I kind of--I saw it go in. I'm not sure if it turned
at an angle. I've heard some people say that's what it did. All I know
is it--it created a huge explosion and massive fireball and--and you
knew instantaneously that--that everybody on that plane was dead. It was
completely eviscerated. "

So Walter's claim to have seen the plane hit the building lasted all of
5 secs before he backed off the claim.

And just to make sure, later in the interview

GUMBEL: Tell me, if you could, about the manner in which the--the plane
struck the building....

Mr. WALTER: Well, as I said, you know, there were trees obstructing my
view, so I saw it as it went--and then the--then the trees, and then I
saw the--the fireball and the smoke. Some people have said that the
plane actually sent on its side and in that way. But I can't tell you,
Bryant. I just know that what I saw was this massive fireball, a huge
explosion and--and a--the thick column of smoke and then an absolute
bedlam on those roads as people were trying to get away."

Now you see it (hit), now you don't.

Or did Jim mean the full account he gave in another interview, only 1
hour later, where he said

"It kind of disappeared over this embankment here for a moment and then
a huge explosion, flames flying into the air, and--and just chaos on the
road."

So he was in an elevated area with a very good view and saw a full on
impact, which he actually didn't see at all because there were trees in
the way, but in spite of his elevation and very good view it
"disappeared" over an embankment - which is actually what he had been
saying the day before anyway, before he changed his mind the next day in
the Gumbel interview,and then immediately backed off, and 1 hour later
went back to his story of the previous day, where he explicitly stated
that he did not see it hit the building.



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