Re: [CTRL] What has happened to my country? Democracy Australian Style - Part II

Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:33:24 -0700

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This link from the ninemsn.com.au homepage shows a poll showing that most Australians support this order. What scares me is that they do not realise what it means.
 
In OUR country - OUR Australia -- we are not being protected from Terrorists - we are becoming the terrorists in the eyes of the Australian Government and it won't be 'Jihad Jack' that will on TV it will be the average Australian be rounded up and thrown into detention centres all over the country but it will start with things like this - a man proven to be innocent in a court of law (appeals court) having a curfew placed on him and imprison in his own home after government agents track him down and issue a court order against him... this is just the start believe me...
 
Australia, you are NOT being protected from 'Terrorists'... you ARE being fooled.
 
I weep for my son and my nephew - the future of this country has been taken away from those who fought for it.
 
WAKE UP AUSTRALIA!
 
 
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Subject: [CTRL] What has happened to my country? Democracy Australian Style

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The AFP (Australian Federal Police) just rocked up to this guys house on holiday AFTER he was found not-guilty by an Appeals Court and deliver a 'Control Order' to him. Innocent or guilty - it won't stop the AFP from pursuing anybody... are you next?
 
 
 
 

Thomas curfew needed to 'protect community', Ruddock says

The Federal Government has placed a control order on Melbourne man Jack Thomas.

Mr Thomas will be required to stay in his house between midnight and 5am and will report to police three times a week.

Federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock says the control orders are necessary to protect the Australian public.

He says the matter must be treated seriously.

"The issue is about protecting the Australian community, not punishing a person for an offence proven beyond reasonable doubt," he said.

"And if you work on the assumption that only those people who could be convicted of an offence could be the subject of a control order, you wouldn't have control orders."

Also known as "Jihad Jack", Mr Thomas was convicted earlier this year of receiving money from Al Qaeda.

But the conviction was this month overturned by the Victorian Court of Appeal.

Jack Thomas's brother, Les, says the lawyers never expected this sort of control order to be handed down.

"They basically laughed at the idea, saying it was basically beyond belief that that would even be attempted, so it's a great shock to us that they've taken this move," he said.

Federal Parliament passed controversial legislation to allow for control orders late last year.

Thomas control order based on 'far-fetched' idea

The brother of Victorian man Jack Thomas has criticised the reasons the Australian Federal Police (AFP) have given for placing an interim control order on the former terrorism accused.

Jack Thomas has spent his first night at home under the interim control order, just days after his terrorism conviction was overturned.

Les Thomas has told the ABC's Lateline program that his brother does not have links to the Indonesian extremist leader Abu Bakar Bashir.

"I think it's an extraordinarily far-fetched idea," he said.

"I think the only tenuous connection that I know of relating to Abu Bakar Bashir is the fact that Maryati, Jack's wife, went to school with a woman who later went on to marry him," he said.

"We cannot believe that this is the kind of thing that is being dragged out and used to justify this action."

Les Thomas says the control order is a political stunt.

"Throughout my brother's entire case you've seen a mythology built around the 'Jihad Jack' idea," he said.

"I think that this has aided the Government's agenda in creating a kind of example - a sacrificial lamb, if you will - of my brother.

"It's just an enormous setback for him personally."

Control order

Jack Thomas was convicted earlier this year of receiving money from Al Qaeda, but the conviction was overturned by the Victorian Court of Appeal.

The AFP sought permission to have the order imposed against Mr Thomas, but that will be challenged in the Federal Court later this week.

Mr Thomas has to adhere to strict conditions, including a curfew between the hours of midnight and 5:00am and having to report to police three times a week.

His lawyer, Rob Stary, says Mr Thomas has also been given a list of people he is not to contact, including some high-profile terror figures.

"Why would you have a list for instance that included Osama Bin Laden?" he said.

"Surely the authorities would want him to contact Osama Bin Laden if there was ever the remotest possibility that he could so that they could trace Osama Bin Laden and capture him."

'Sour grapes'

Liberty Victoria president Brian Walters says the AFP look as though they are trying to make up for being embarrassed.

"It smacks of sour grapes, having been shown up for the impropriety in which the Australian Federal Police were involved in Pakistan, and having the interview rejected," he said.

"If ever there was a case where an end should have been brought to it, this is that case."

Mr Walters says he is concerned for the health of Mr Thomas, who has been undergoing psychiatric treatment.

"Of course it's going to have a massive impact on his psychiatric condition, and of course it's very dangerous for him personally," he said.

"This cannot be justified, in the light of the jury's finding that he was not involved in any terrorist activity."

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