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Date: June 2, 2007 10:56:52 PM PDT
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Subject: Not Another Vietnam, MAYBE Another Korea; POSSIBLY Another
Civil War (OURS!)
Johnson Despairs In 1964: ‘It Looks Like We’re Getting Into Another
Korea’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/02/korea-johnson/
The White House announced this week that it “would like to see a
lengthy U.S. troop presence in Iraq like the one in South Korea,”
where U.S. troops have been stationed for 50 years.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates endorsed the “Korea model” on
Thursday, and Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, who oversees daily
operations in Iraq, called it a “great idea.”
Such enthusiasm for a protracted U.S. presence modeled after Korea
is grimly ironic.
Back in 1964, when “the war in Vietnam was only a small dark cloud
on the very distant horizon,” President Lyndon Johnson privately
told National Security Adviser McGeorge Bundy that “getting into
another Korea” was the very thing he feared:
"I just stayed awake last night thinking of this thing, and the
more that I think of it I don’t know what in the hell, it looks
like to me that we’re getting into another Korea. It just worries
the hell out of me. I don’t see what we can ever hope to get out
of there with once we’re committed. I believe the Chinese
Communists are coming into it. I don’t think that we can fight them
10,000 miles away from home and ever get anywhere in that area. I
don’t think it’s worth fighting for and I don’t think we can get
out. And it’s just the biggest damn mess that I ever saw."
PBS’ Bill Moyers recently highlighted this conversation between
Johnson and Bundy in a feature called Listening to History. Watch it:
As Moyers noted, “That was in May of 1964. Only 260 Americans had
been killed in Vietnam by then. Eleven years and two presidents
later, when U.S. forces pulled out, 58,209 Americans had died, and
an estimated 3 million Vietnamese.”
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