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Do you know that Tony Poe lives in a very small village in California?
I live in the same village. The whole family is OTL...seriously!
JUDY GULSON
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Subject: [CTRL] CIA's Paramilitary Operations
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> Subject: CIA's Paramilitary Operations
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 3:31 PM
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> CIA's Paramilitary Operations
>
> A recent reference to retired CIA paramilitary officer Tony Poe or
> Tony Poshepny below, raises the question of CIA paramilitary
> operations in general. As we read these accounts we should ask, can we
> really expect that PM officers will ever produce intelligence? Did we
> not run a PM war in Vietnam for years without ever understanding the
> other side? Did we not conduct a PM war in Afghanistan that led to
> the creation of "International Terrorism?" Did not all PM wars
> contribute to the international drug traffic? Did not the CIA's
> committment to paramilitary wars engage this country in many other
> destructive activities?
>
> In a speech in October 1998, by John Millis, Staff Director of the
> House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), he dicussed
> the future of the CIA. Millis is a former CIA operations who became
> Staff Director of HPSCI in 1997. Mr. Millis said re CIA paramilitary
> operations:
>
> "We believe we have to keep a very strong paramilitary capability on
> the shelf for the Directorate of Operations. It's always hard to
> anticipate what the next crisis is going to be, but we can be sure
> that it will be there. And the paramilitary capability the DO has is
> uniquely well suited for many of the types of situations that we're
> seeing around the world."
>
> The reference item on Tony Poe said:
>
> "...his life helped to create the greatest cinema icon to come of the
> Vietnam war. This man...is the real Colonel Kurtz, whose fictional
> counterpart was played by Marlon Brando in Francis Ford Coppola's epic
> movie Apocalypse Now...
>
> The reality of the Kurtz legend is far stranger than fiction... [It]
> confirmed the existence of a US super-spy code-named Upin. Upin was a
> pararmilitary expert....Like the fictional Kurtz, he recruited a
> private army of 10,000 tribesmen, married a princess turned his back
> on the US and became as savage as the jungle he made his home."
>
> ...Agent Upin, also known as Pat Gibbs, was Anthony Poshepny, one of
> the CIA's most notorious and effective agents deployed in the Vietnam
> war. Orders were to enter Laos illegally in 1961 and conduct a secret
> war against the communists that would be denied in Congress and hidden
> from the US public...."
>
> Ralph McGehee http://come.to/CIABASE
>
> The below are brief extracts from CIABASE files on Tony Poe.
>
> Laos, Tony Poe ran the secret ground war in Laos and kept pickled
> heads. Poe was a Hungarian refugee who began his CIA career training
> Khamba tribesmen to fight the Chinese in Tibet. Poe said "we got the
> Dalai Lama out of Tibet." In Laos he rewarded his men for producing
> the ears of communists. Harper's 7/85 60
>
> Laos 53-75 book by Roger Warner, Back Fire: the CIA's Secret War in
> Laos and its Link to the War in Vietnam, (1995). Discusses Vang Pao
> of the Hmong tribesmen. The Secret War gained momentum - with Bill
> Lair - an ideological cold warrior, using Thai paratroopers to train
> the Hmong. Lair had his hqs in Udorn, Thailand. Tony Poshepny, an
> ex-marine of Hungarian origin - who had worked with the CIA's ops with
> the Khamba in Tibet and in Sumatra, Indonesia was ultimately thrown
> out of op, a broken-down drunk. This is a wry, compassionate
> narrative. "from 63 to 73, Laos was a secret annex to Vietnam war,
> overseen by the ambassador, run by CIA, and bombed by the U.S.
> military, without the consent of Congress." Warner focuses on CIA's
> misbegotten strategy of the Hmong counterinsurgency. A horrific tale
> of blindsighted do-gooders, ambitions and bungled intentions. Bill
> Lair/CIA recruited 10,000 Hmong. Clothed, fed and armed by CIA and
> trained by Thais, they helicoptered to elaborate skirmishes against
> the Pathet Lao and the North Vietnamese. At peak strength of 30,000
> they were the only effective Lao army. Vang Pao took his cut from the
> opium trade. He deserted to the U.S. in 75, six months before the
> Pathet Laos' triumph. The Nation 9/18/95 288-90
>
> Laos, China, 67-68 Tony Poe sent T-28 planes to bomb in China. Corn,
> d. (1994). Blond Ghost: Ted Shackley and the CIA's Crusades 154-5
>
> Laos, Vietnam, 63 In 8/63 Lair received an order to disrupt NVN
> truck traffic thru Laos by blowing up parts of route 7. From an Air
> America plane, Tony Poe dropped demolition charges. Thais supervised
> twelve platoons of elite Meo troops called Special Guerrilla Units as
> they blew up a section. Warner, R. (1995). Back Fire 100-1
>
> Laos, Thailand, Vietnam. Edgar Buell, Tony poshepny and William Young
> had personal imprint on secret war. Tony Poe in 58 was one of two
> operatives sent to support separtists revolt in Indonesia. His first
> assignment was with anti-Sihanouk mercenaries along the Cambodian
> border in South Vietnam. In Laos he offered one dollar for an ear of
> enemy and more for a head and cap. McCoy A.W. (1991). The Politics of
> Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Traffic 306-7
>
> Laos. Beginning in 64 Vang Pao became drug lord of the Hmong. Per
> Ouane Rattikone, commander of Laotian army, and Gen Thao Ma, then
> commander of the Laotian air force, Air America began flying Hmong
> opium to markets in Long Tieng and Vientiane. Tony Poe, a CIA officer
> who worked with Vang Pao, said Vang Pao made millions in drug traffic.
> Air logistics for opium trade further improved when CIA and USAID gave
> Vang Pao financial assistance in forming his own air line, Xieng
> Khouang Air Transport. Formed in late 67 with two C-47s acquired from
> Air American and Continental Air Services. McCoy, A.W. (1991). the
> politics of heroin: CIA complicity in the global drug traffic 318
>
> Laos, Thailand, 62-72 CIA worked with the Thai Border Police who
> were assigned to run the Meo op from Thailand -- from Udorn airbase.
> Thai BPP served as radio operators, training cadre, and support troops
> for Vang Pao's men. Thais operated under control of only 2 CIA
> officers - who lived with Vang Pao - Vint Lawrence one and Anthony
> Poshepny. They lived in a mountain hut for nearly 2 years - this early
> after 62 Geneva agreements. Further details of Vang Pao and the drug
> traffic. Grant, Z. (1991). Facing the Phoenix 148-160
>
> Laos, 59-75 Op momentum was the support of the Meo with the Thai
> PARU with Vang Pao the commander. If they ultimately lost Vang Pao's
> Meos could move to Sayaboury province. If Thais refused they might
> take him in Thailand and make him a border security force. Bill Lair
> part of op as was Lloyd "Pat" Landry, Tony Poe aka Anthony Poshepny -
> Poe had run PM missions in the Korean war, worked with the Tibetan
> Khamba tribesmen for a rebellion against China, in 58 Poe and Landry
> to Sumatra, Indonesia to jump start a rebellion there, until they
> rescued by submarine. Tony Poe 's hobby was collecting enemy ears.
> Warner, R. (1995). Back Fire 47-54
>
> Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, 70-71 Cambodia, indirectly, would feature
> another, far bigger Lao PM program when in 6/70 the Thai gvt declared
> it would be sending Thai volunteers to help defend Khmer republic. The
> DOD stepped in and agreed to pay for a 5,000 man contingent. Bangkok
> waffled and men were sent directly to Laos. A force to total one
> artillery and nine infantry battalions. the Project called Unity. The
> Pentagon funded but CIA administered the program in field. Case
> officers were Tony Poe, Dunc Jewell, Chuck Campbell; and, Doug
> Swanson. On 12/15/70 two Thai battalions entered Laos under op
> code-named Virakom (patriot) - they were sent to MR-4. Conboy, K. &
> Morrison, J. 1995). Shadow War: CIA's Secret War in Laos 285-6
>
> Laos, China. Background on Tony Poe who led the Hmong forces in Laos
> for many years. He offered rewards to Hmong for the ears of
> communists. Harper's 7/85 60
>
> Laos, Thailand, Vietnam. Edgar Buell, Tony Poshepny and William Young
> had personal imprint on the secret war. Tony Poe in 58 was one of two
> operatives sent to support separtists revolt in Indonesia. His first
> assignment was with anti-Sihanouek mercenaries along the Cambodian
> border in South Vietnam. In Laos he offered one dollar for an ear of
> enemy and more for a head and cap. Details re Pop Buell. Mccoy, A.W.
> (1991). The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug
> Traffic 306-7
>
> China, 69-72 Commando raider company in 70 used as passive
> intel-gathering role along the Chinese built road in North Laos. CIA
> supporting an autonomous agent net run by RTA intel against Chinese
> road-building. Thai-run assets produced no significant intel. George
> Kenning was responsible for liaison with the Nien. Due to news
> dispatches revealing Tony Poe's role, he was reassigned to Thailand as
> Pat Gibbs. Fox ops against China had been wrapped up years earlier,
> and many Tartar and Scope teams - whose incursions into China had
> never been deep or frequent - were recalled. Conboy, k. & Morrison, j.
> (1995). Shadow War: CIA's Secret War in Laos 317-9
>
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