-Caveat Lector- -----Original Message----- From: Roger Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, 29 June 1999 21:16 Subject: Re: SNET: The Shroud of Turin and Other "Holy Relics" -> SNETNEWS Mailing List This Shroud of Turin debunking stuff (appended below) is so laughably ridiculous that my eyes started tearing. Typical Internet anti-Christian drivel. Here folks, go contrast that nonsense with some findings of real Shroud research. In view of the hard scientific information that has been determined from Shroud research, is incredible to see what kind of nonsense still circulates about it. Check these links out to transcripts, audio interviews, and a web site of some of the true Shroud of Turin researchers. (Also the Oviedo cloth that was used to wrap Jesus's head when he was still mounted on the cross but had expired. Interesting correspondence of blood stains on Turin shroud and Oviedo cloth -- and the blood type of the two match.) http://www.shroud.com/ information about international Shroud research The Shroud of Turin - An X-Ray? http://earthfiles.com/earth025.html The Shroud of Turin - Blood Tests http://earthfiles.com/earth026.html The Shroud of Turin - Dematerialization of the Body? http://earthfiles.com/earth024.html The Cloth of Oviedo http://earthfiles.com/earth042.html Enjoy. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "undisclosed-recipients:@aol.com"@world.std.com; <"undisclosed-recipients:@aol.com"@world.std.com;> Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:10 PM Subject: SNET: The Shroud of Turin and Other "Holy Relics" > >-> SNETNEWS Mailing List > >Please send as far and wide as possible. > >Thanks, > >Robert Sterling >Editor, The Konformist >http://www.konformist.com >http://www.konformist.com/page1.htm >http://www.konformist.com/blasphemy/blasphemy.htm >http://www.konformist.com/blasphemy/shroud.htm > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.truthbeknown.com/ > >The Shroud of Turin and Other "Holy Relics" > >In its quest to create a religion to gain power >and wealth, the Church forgery mill did not limit itself to mere writings >but for centuries cranked out thousands of phony "relics" of its "Lord," >"Apostles" and "Saints." Although true believers desperately keep >attempting to prove otherwise, through one implausible theory after >another, the Shroud of Turin is counted among this group of frauds: > >There were at least 26 "authentic" burial shrouds >scattered throughout the abbeys of Europe, of which the Shroud of Turin >is just one. . . . The Shroud of Turin is one of the many relics >manufactured for profit during the Middle Ages. Shortly after the Shroud >emerged it was declared a fake by the bishop who discovered the artist. >This is verified by recent scientific investigation which found paint in >the image areas. The Shroud of Turin is also not consistent with Gospel >accounts of Jesus' burial, which clearly refer to multiple cloths and a >separate napkin over his face. > >As Gerald Larue says: > >Carbon-14 dating has demonstrated that the Shroud is >a 14th-century forgery >and is one of many such deliberately created relics produced in the same >period, all designed to attract pilgrims to specific shrines to enhance >and increase the status and financial income of the local church. > >Walker comments on the holy relic mill: > >About the beginning of the >9th century, bones, >teeth, hair, garments, and other relics of fictitious saints were >conveniently "found" all over Europe and Asia and triumphantly installed >in the reliquaries of every church, until all Catholic Europe was falling >to its knees before what Calvin called its anthill of bones. . . . St. >Luke was touted as one of the ancient world's most prolific artists, to >judge from the numerous portraits of the Virgin, painted by him, that >appeared in many churches. Some still remain, despite ample proof that >all such portraits were actually painted during the Middle Ages. > >And Wells states: > >About 1200, Constantinople was so crammed with relics >that one may speak of a veritable industry with its own factories. >Blinzler (a Catholic New Testament scholar) lists, as examples: letters >in Jesus' own hand, the gold brought to the baby Jesus by the wise men, >the twelve baskets of bread collected after the miraculous feeding of the >5000, the throne of David, the trumpets of Jericho, the axe with which >Noah made the Ark, and so on. . . > >At one point, a number of churches claimed the one >foreskin of Jesus, and there were enough splinters of the "True Cross" >that Calvin said the amount of wood would make "a full load for a good >ship." The disgraceful list of absurdities and frauds goes on, and, as >Pope Leo X exclaimed, the Christ fable has been enormously profitable for >the Church. Again, it must be asked why force, forgery and fraud were >needed to spread the "good news" brought by a "historical son of >God." > > >If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, >please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" >(Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) > >Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: >http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist > >-> Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >-> Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -> Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> Posted by: "Roger Voss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
