-Caveat Lector-

Andrew,
    Seems we meet again. This time, you want proof of what I say.
    Would you settle for words from "THE HORSES MOUTH" instead of mine?
    But first, let me say one thing. This list does not allow anti-Semitic
statements or Holocaust denials. Am I correct? With that in mind, I am not
Anti-Semitic; I like Arabs just fine. I do not much care for people that
claim to be Jewish and are not. Those that choose to call themselves "Jews"
today, are no more Jewish than a Billy Goat can claim to be a Horse. The
Jewish author, Arthur Koelster, in his Thirteenth Tribe goes to great length
to explain this FACT. That YOU, SIR, do not believe him, is not my problem.
    As for the Holocaust, there are doubts about the number of Jewish dead.
I have no doubt that Jews died in WWII; the how, where  and number is
confusing to me, since, it seems, the only ones that benefit from death just
happens to be Jews; Israel receives 3-4 billion dollars a year from America
for this Holocaust, even though Americans did not do it if it was done at
all.
    Andrew, are YOU the list master? If not, then you have no bitch with me.
If you are, then remove me. Just remember, truth will rule eventually, and
either you or me will have more egg on our face than we can ever remove.
    With that in mind, I offer you a couple of articles I've come across in
my studies.
John Lee
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Number 1:

"A REAL CASE AGAINST THE JEWS"

by MARCUS ELI RAVAGE


The following article, "A REAL CASE AGAINST THE JEWS", was written by Marcus
Eli Ravage, a JEWISH writer who "worshipped at the feet of the Rothschilds
(the Jewish bankers) as their approved biographer." It appeared in THE
CENTURY MAGAZINE, JANUARY 1928. This is an exact transcription. Look it up
at any major library if you doubt its existence or contents. Read it
carefully and you will understand why we choose to print this here.


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course, you do resent us. It is no good telling me you don t. So let us not
waste any time on denials and alibis. You know you do, and I know it, and we
understand each other. To be sure, some of your best friends are Jews, and
all that. I have heard that before once or twice, I think. And I know, too,
that you do not include me personally - "me" being any particular individual
Jew - when you fling out at us in your wholesale fashion, because I am,
well, so different, don t you know, almost as good as one of yourselves.
That little exemption does not, somehow, move me to gratitude; but never
mind that now. It is the aggressive, climbing, pushing, materialistic sort
you dislike - those, in a word, who remind you so much of your own
up-and-coming brethren. We understand each other perfectly. I don t hold it
against you.

Bless my soul, I do not blame anybody for disliking anybody. The thing that
intrigues me about this anti-Jewish business, as you play at it, is your
total lack of grit. You are so indirect and roundabout with it, you make
such transparent excuses, you seem to be suffering from self-consciousness
so horribly, that if the performance were not grotesque, it would be
irritating.

It is not as if you were amateurs: you have been at it for over fifteen
centuries. Yet watching you and hearing your childish pretexts, one might
get the impression that you did not know yourselves what it is all about.
You resent us, but you can not clearly say why. You think up a new excuse -
a reason is what you call it - every other day. You have been piling up
justifications for yourselves these many hundreds of years and each new
invention is more laughable than the last and each new excuse contradicts
and annihilates the last.

Not so many years ago I used to hear that we were money-grubbers and
commercial materialists; now the complaint is being whispered around that no
art and no profession is safe against Jewish invasion.

We are, if you are to be believed, at once clannish and exclusive and
unassimilable because we won t intermarry with you, and we are also climbers
and pushers and a menace to your racial integrity.

Our standard of living is so low that we create your slums and sweated
industries, and so high that we crowd you out of your best residential
sections.

We shirk our patriotic duty in wartime because we are pacifists by nature
and tradition, and we are the arch-plotters of universal wars and the chief
beneficiaries of those wars (see the late Dearborn Independent passim, and
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ).

We are at once the founders and leading adherents of capitalism and the
chief perpetrators of the rebellion against capitalism.

Surely, history has nothing like us for versatility!

And, oh! I almost forgot the reason of reasons. We are the stiff-necked
people who never accepted Christianity, and we are the criminal people who
crucified its founder.

But I can tell you, you are self-deceivers. You lack either the
self-knowledge or the mettle to face the facts squarely and own up to the
truth. You resent the Jew not because, as some of you seem to think, he
crucified Jesus but because he gave him birth. Your real quarrel with us is
not that we have rejected Christianity but that we have imposed it upon you!

Your loose, contradictory charges against us are not a patch on the
blackness of our proved historic offense. You accuse us of stirring up
revolution in Moscow. Suppose we admit the charge. What of it? Compared with
what Paul the Jew of Tarsus accomplished in Rome, the Russian upheaval is a
mere street brawl.

You make much noise and fury about the undue Jewish influence in your
theaters and movie palaces. Very good; granted your complaint is
well-founded. But what is that compared to our staggering influence in your
churches, your schools, your laws and your governments, and the very
thoughts you think every day?

A clumsy Russian forges a set of papers and publishes them in a book called
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion , which shows that we plotted to bring
on the late World War. You believe that book. All right. For the sake of
argument we will underwrite every word of it. It is genuine and authentic.
But what is that beside the unquestionable historical conspiracy which we
have carried out, which we have never denied because you never had the
courage to charge us with it, and of which the full record is extant for
anybody to read?

If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct
your attention to one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words on
the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper
owners and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the
proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels?

You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are
intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural
world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been
at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your
wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your
history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your
personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we
shall go on doing it.

Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you
were an innocent, care-free, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and
goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the
woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You
carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You
delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War
and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves
on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to
speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of
natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked
by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings
about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have
been yours if we had left you alone.

But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the
beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole
course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever
subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without
bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it
solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole
world, to the barbarous races of the earth, to the countless unborn
generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you
became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to
the unexplored ends of the earth.

Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws
have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and
legal systems. Our legends and our folk tales are the sacred lore which you
croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer
books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of your pastors
and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our
warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our
national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught
has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no
one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial
heritage.

Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with
countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to
their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of womanhood. A Jewish
rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have
pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted
for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even
remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.

How did we do it? Almost by accident. Two thousand years ago nearly, in
far-off Palestine, our religion had fallen into decay and materialism.
Money-changers were in possession of the temple. Degenerate, selfish priests
mulcted our people and grew fat. Then a young patriot-idealist arose and
went about the land calling for a revival of faith. He had no thought of
setting up a new church. Like all the prophets before him, his only aim was
to purify and revitalize the old creed. He attacked the priests and drove
the money-changers from the temple. This brought him into conflict with the
established order and its supporting pillars. The Roman authorities, who
were in occupation of the country, fearing his revolutionary agitation as a
political effort to oust them, arrested him, tried him and condemned him to
death by crucifixion, a common form of execution at that time.

The followers of Jesus of Nazareth, mainly slaves and poor workmen, in their
bereavement and disappointment, turned away from the world and formed
themselves into a brotherhood of pacifist non-resisters, sharing the memory
of their crucified leader and living together communistically. They were
merely a new sect in Judea, without power or consequence, neither the first
nor the last.

Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come
into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea
of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale or its soldiery with
the doctrines of love and non-resistance preached by the little sect of
Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto
had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did
Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had
subjugated Palestine along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And
the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome.

This was the beginning of our dominance in your world. But it was only a
beginning. From this time forth your history is little more than a struggle
for mastery between your own old pagan spirit and our Jewish spirit. Half
your wars, great and little, are religious wars, fought over the
interpretation of one thing or another in our teachings. You no sooner broke
free from your primitive religious simplicity and attempted the practice of
the pagan Roman learning than Luther armed with our gospels arose to down
you and enthrone our heritage. Take the three principal revolutions in
modern times - the French, the American and the Russian. What are they but
the triumph of the Jewish idea of social, political and economic justice?

And the end is still a long way off. We still dominate you. At this very
moment your churches are torn asunder by a civil war between Fundamentalists
and Modernists, that is to say between those who cling to our teachings and
traditions literally and those who are striving by slow steps to dispossess
us. In Dayton, Tennessee, a Bible-bred community forbids the teaching of
your science because it conflicts with our ancient Jewish account of the
origin of life; and Mr. Bryan, the leader of the anti-Jewish Ku Klux Klan in
the Democratic National Convention, makes the supreme fight of his life in
our behalf, without noticing the contradiction. Again and again the Puritan
heritage of Judea breaks out in waves of stage censorship, Sunday blue laws
and national prohibition acts. And while these things are happening you
twaddle about Jewish influence in the movies!

Is it any wonder you resent us? We have put a clog upon your progress. we
have imposed upon you an alien book and an alien faith which you cannot
swallow or digest, which is at cross-purposes with your native spirit, which
keeps you everlastingly ill-at-ease, and which you lack either to reject or
to accept in full.

In full, of course, you never have accepted our Christian teachings. In your
hearts you still are pagans. You still love war and graven images and
strife. You still take pride in the glory of the nude human figure. Your
social conscience, in spit of all democracy and all your social revolutions,
is still a pitifully imperfect thing. We have merely divided your soul,
confused your impulses, paralyzed your desires. In the midst of battle you
are obliged to kneel down to him who commanded you to turn the other cheek,
who said Resist not evil and Blessed are the peacemakers. In your lust for
gain you are suddenly disturbed by a memory from your Sunday-school days
about taking no thought for the morrow. In your industrial struggles, when
you would smash a strike without compunction, you are suddenly reminded that
the poor are blessed and that men are brothers in the Fatherhood of the
Lord. And as you are about to yield to temptation, your Jewish training puts
a deterrent hand on your shoulder and dashes the brimming cup from your
lips. You Christians have never become Christianized. To that extent we have
failed with you. But we have forever spoiled the fun of paganism for you.

So why should you not resent us? If we were in your place we should probably
dislike you more cordially than you do us. But we should make no bones about
telling you why. We should resort to subterfuges and transparent pretexts.
With millions of painfully respectable Jewish shopkeepers all about us we
should not insult your intelligence and our own honesty by talking about
communism as a Jewish philosophy. And with millions of hard-working
impecunious Jewish peddlers and laborers we should not make ourselves
ridiculous by talking about international capitalism as a Jewish monopoly.
No, we should go straight to the point. We should contemplate this confused,
ineffectual muddle which we call civilization, this half-Christian
half-pagan medley, and - were our places reversed - we should say to you
point-blank: For this mess thanks to you, to your prophets and to your
Bible.
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Number 2:

Ladies and Gentlemen:
 I especially address this note to that, or, those persons from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Please note paragraphs 1. through 4. below. Johnny Lee is the author of
these four paragraphs. These paragraphs were intended to be, and will
hopefully become, a wakeup call for White People world wide.
 I have reason to doubt the ability of the White Race to wake up to anything
at the present time. When, and if, this wakeup occurs, it will probably be
too late to do anything but die a coward's death.
 To use paragraphs 1-4 as if the words were spoken by Rabinovich is to play
the Jewish game for their benefit. Like the fine tuned violin, whomever did
it was played to the hilt.
 May I ask those responsible for the misuse of this article, to please,
leave it , and any future article,  as is,  if it is to be circulated on the
net.

BELOW IS THE COMPLETE ARTICLE, DIVIDED, SO THE CONTENT AND CONTEXT CANNOT BE
MIS-CONSTRUED.

Johnny Lee

_________________________________________________________________



1. The following should never be forgotten by any White Man or Woman. It
explains, in a nutshell, the intent of the 'World Masters" that will lead
to a time in the near future, if the Masters have their way, that the White
Race will cease to exist.
2. White Man, it is time to stop your daydreaming. It is time to face the
facts of life on Planet Earth. It is time to put aside your egalitarian
dreams of equality for all because Christ "Said So". You really should read
an old Bible to know the truth. Since the King James was, and is heavily
influenced by Jewish thought and writers, it would do you well to find one
that precedes the James version.
3. To fail to understand the extent of the One World Conspiracy, and the
power of your Masters, is about to lead to your extinction. What you are
about to read is a speech given by a Jewish Rabbi in Budapest, Hungary on
January 12, 1952. The name of the Rabbi is EMANUEL RABINOVICH, a Jew of
obvious importance and power, since  it appears he called the Emergency
Council of European Rabbis, before which Rabinovich gave the following
DEATH SENTENCE speech. This speech is quoted word for word from the book,
"PAWNS IN THE GAME" by Commander William Guy Carr.
4. White Man, it is time to forget your National Boundaries and to stop
fighting among yourselves over, or because of religion. You have an enemy
that plays you like a fine tuned Violin, and you fall for every subtle trap
he sets for you. When will you open your eyes so you might see the problem?
Only if you understand what the problem is, will you be able to solve it.
 With this in mind, I wish you well.

Johnny Lee
______________________________________________________________________

RABINOVICH NOW SPEAKS!!!

 "Greetings, my children: You have been called here to recapitulate the
principal steps of our new programme. As you know, we had hoped to have
twenty years between wars to consolidate the great gains we made from World
War II, but our increasing numbers in certain vital areas is arousing
opposition to us, and we must now work with every means at our disposal to
precipitate World War III within Five Years.
 The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years
is at last within our reach, and because its fulfillment is so apparent, it
behooves us to increase our efforts, and our own caution, tenfold. I can
safely promise you that before ten years have passed, our race will take
its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a King, and every Gentile a
slave. You remember the success of our propaganda campaing during the
1930's, which aroused Anti-American passions in Germany at the same time we
were arousing Anti-German passions in America, a campaing which culminated
in the Second World War. A similar propaganda campaing is now being waged
intensively throughout the world. A war fever is being worked up in Russia
by an incessant Anti-American barrage, while a nation wide Anti-Communist
scare is sweeping America. This campaign is forcing all of the smaller
nations to choose between the partnership with Russia or an alliance with
the United States.
 Our most pressing problem at the moment is to inflame the lagging
militaristic spirit of the Americans. The failure of the Universal Military
Training Act was a great setback to our plans, but we are assured that a
suitable measure will be rushed through Congress immediately after the 1952
elections. The Russian, as well as the Asiatic peoples, are well under
control and offer no objections to war, but we must wait to secure the
Americans. This we hope to do with the issue of Anti-Semitism, which worked
so well in uniting the Americans against Germany. We are counting heavily
on reports of  Anti-Semitic outrages in Russia to help whip up indignation
in the United States and produce a front of solidarity against the Soviet
power. Simultaneously, to demonstrate to Americans the reality of
Anti-Semitism, we will advance through new sources large sums of money to
outspokenly Anti-Semitic elements in America to increase their
effectiveness, and we shall stage Anti-Semitic outbreaks in several of
their larger cities. This will serve the double purpose of exposing
reactionary sectors in America, which can be silenced, and of welding the
United States into a devoted Anti-Russian unit.
 Within five years, this programme will achieve its objective, the Third
World War, which will surpass in destruction all previous contests. Israel,
of course, will remain neutral, and when both sides are devasted and
exhausted we will arbitrate, sending our Control Commission into all
wrecked countries. This war will end for all time our struggle against the
Gentiles.
 We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia and Africa. I
can state with assurance that the last generation of white children is now
being born. Our control Commissions will, in the interest of peace and
wiping out inter-racial tensions, forbid the Whites to mate with Whites.
The White Women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the White men
with Black Women. Thus the White Race will disappear, for the mixing the
White with the Dark means the end of the White Man, and our most dangerous
enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten
thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our Race will rule
undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us
to retain mastery over a world of DARK PEOPLES."
 A question from the gathering:
 "Rabbi Rabinovich, what about the various religions after the Third World
War?"
 Rabinovich:
 "There will be no more religions. Not only would the existence of a Priest
Class remain a constant danger to our rule, but belief in an after-life
would give spiritual strength to irreconcilable elements in many countries,
and enable them to resist us. We will, however, retain the rituals and
customs of Judaism, as the mark of our herediary ruling caste,
strengthening our Racial Laws so that no Jew will be allowed to marry
outside our Race, nor will any stranger be accepted by us.
 We may have to repeat the grim days of World War II, when we were forced
to let the Hitlerite bandits sacrifice some of our people, in order that we
may have adequate documentation and witnesses to legally justify our trial
and execution of the leaders of America and Russia as war criminals, after
we have dictated the peace. I am sure you will need little preparation for
such duty, for sacrifice has always been the watchword of our people, and
the death of a few thousand Jews in exchange for world leadership is indeed
a small price to pay.
 To convince you of the certainty of that leadership, let me point out to
you how we have turned all of the inventions of the White Man into weapons
against him. His printing presses and radios (and now, televisions) are the
mouth pieces of our desires, and his heavy industry manufactures the
instrument which he sends out to arm Asia and Africa against him. Our
interests in Washington are greatly extending the Point Four Programme for
developing industry in backward areas of the world, so that after the
industrial plants in Europe and America are destroyed by atomic warfare,
the Whites can offer no resistance against the masses of the dark races,
who will maintain an unchallenged technological superiority.
 And so, with the vision of world victory before you, go back to your
countries and intensify your good work, until that approaching day when
Israel will reveal herself in all her glorious destiny as the Light of the
World."





RABINOVICH NOW SPEAKS!!!

 "Greetings, my children: You have been called here to recapitulate the
principal steps of our new programme. As you know, we had hoped to have
twenty years between wars to consolidate the great gains we made from World
War II, but our increasing numbers in certain vital areas is arousing
opposition to us, and we must now work with every means at our disposal to
precipitate World War III within Five Years.
 The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years
is at last within our reach, and because its fulfillment is so apparent, it
behooves us to increase our efforts, and our own caution, tenfold. I can
safely promise you that before ten years have passed, our race will take
its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a King, and every Gentile a
slave. You remember the success of our propaganda campaing during the
1930's, which aroused Anti-American passions in Germany at the same time we
were arousing Anti-German passions in America, a campaing which culminated
in the Second World War. A similar propaganda campaing is now being waged
intensively throughout the world. A war fever is being worked up in Russia
by an incessant Anti-American barrage, while a nation wide Anti-Communist
scare is sweeping America. This campaign is forcing all of the smaller
nations to choose between the partnership with Russia or an alliance with
the United States.
 Our most pressing problem at the moment is to inflame the lagging
militaristic spirit of the Americans. The failure of the Universal Military
Training Act was a great setback to our plans, but we are assured that a
suitable measure will be rushed through Congress immediately after the 1952
elections. The Russian, as well as the Asiatic peoples, are well under
control and offer no objections to war, but we must wait to secure the
Americans. This we hope to do with the issue of Anti-Semitism, which worked
so well in uniting the Americans against Germany. We are counting heavily
on reports of  Anti-Semitic outrages in Russia to help whip up indignation
in the United States and produce a front of solidarity against the Soviet
power. Simultaneously, to demonstrate to Americans the reality of
Anti-Semitism, we will advance through new sources large sums of money to
outspokenly Anti-Semitic elements in America to increase their
effectiveness, and we shall stage Anti-Semitic outbreaks in several of
their larger cities. This will serve the double purpose of exposing
reactionary sectors in America, which can be silenced, and of welding the
United States into a devoted Anti-Russian unit.
 Within five years, this programme will achieve its objective, the Third
World War, which will surpass in destruction all previous contests. Israel,
of course, will remain neutral, and when both sides are devasted and
exhausted we will arbitrate, sending our Control Commission into all
wrecked countries. This war will end for all time our struggle against the
Gentiles.
 We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia and Africa. I
can state with assurance that the last generation of white children is now
being born. Our control Commissions will, in the interest of peace and
wiping out inter-racial tensions, forbid the Whites to mate with Whites.
The White Women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the White men
with Black Women. Thus the White Race will disappear, for the mixing the
White with the Dark means the end of the White Man, and our most dangerous
enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten
thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our Race will rule
undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us
to retain mastery over a world of DARK PEOPLES."
 A question from the gathering:
 "Rabbi Rabinovich, what about the various religions after the Third World
War?"
 Rabinovich:
 "There will be no more religions. Not only would the existence of a Priest
Class remain a constant danger to our rule, but belief in an after-life
would give spiritual strength to irreconcilable elements in many countries,
and enable them to resist us. We will, however, retain the rituals and
customs of Judaism, as the mark of our herediary ruling caste,
strengthening our Racial Laws so that no Jew will be allowed to marry
outside our Race, nor will any stranger be accepted by us.
 We may have to repeat the grim days of World War II, when we were forced
to let the Hitlerite bandits sacrifice some of our people, in order that we
may have adequate documentation and witnesses to legally justify our trial
and execution of the leaders of America and Russia as war criminals, after
we have dictated the peace. I am sure you will need little preparation for
such duty, for sacrifice has always been the watchword of our people, and
the death of a few thousand Jews in exchange for world leadership is indeed
a small price to pay.
 To convince you of the certainty of that leadership, let me point out to
you how we have turned all of the inventions of the White Man into weapons
against him. His printing presses and radios (and now, televisions) are the
mouth pieces of our desires, and his heavy industry manufactures the
instrument which he sends out to arm Asia and Africa against him. Our
interests in Washington are greatly extending the Point Four Programme for
developing industry in backward areas of the world, so that after the
industrial plants in Europe and America are destroyed by atomic warfare,
the Whites can offer no resistance against the masses of the dark races,
who will maintain an unchallenged technological superiority.
 And so, with the vision of world victory before you, go back to your
countries and intensify your good work, until that approaching day when
Israel will reveal herself in all her glorious destiny as the Light of the
World."
_____________________________________________
    Now, Mr. Hennessey, if you want more evidence from the "Horse's"s Mouth,
please ask!
John Lee

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Hennessey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 7:13 PM
Subject: [CTRL] CTRLs & LEE alleged agenda discussed


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Tonight we got an email at CTRL from Mr Lee who alleged that Kris was
> putting forth propoganda.
> That got me very very worried - because hard times are ahead and we all
> want to know the truth of what is going on.
> We all know that people will try to hide the truth - often by rubbishing
> the perceived opposition.
> For someone to run a mailing list for issuing propoganda - the inference
is
> that that person has some secret agenda - presumably working for or on
> behalf of some governmental agency with an agenda to manipulate and
deceive
> the minds of the public.
> Mr Lee issued a statement tonight that inferred that this list has been
> poisoned by biased opinion and lies.
> Mr Lee appears to know something that we don't.
> Would Mr Lee like to present us with his factual case for such an
> accusation against someone I would unreservedly trust ie. Kris
>
> or, is it Mr Lee's failings that have been unreservedly exposed by the
truth ?
>
> Andrew Hennessey
>
> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> ==========
> CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting
propagandic
> screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid
matters
> and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
outright
> frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
effects
> spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
readers;
> be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
> nazi's need not apply.
>
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