-Caveat Lector-

Bill Cooper was a member of this list over a year ago and antagonized
virtually everyone with name-calling and refusal to answer questions about
his organization, called Harvest Trust.  He was giving out information about
federal income taxes that I was afraid would get people into legal trouble,
but he refused to take responsibility for the disinformation.  I found him
to be arrogant and abusive, and for that reason found no credibility in
anything else he had to say.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicky Molloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 4:27 AM
Subject: [CTRL] William "Bill" Cooper & John Lear


> -Caveat Lector-
>
>Hi ...does anyone any more about this?
>
>http://home.worldonline.nl/~karel/ufo/people/cooper-lear/index.html
>
>William "Bill" Cooper & John Lear
>The Fraud, The hoax and the Fight
>
>When I started looking for UFO related information on the internet, I found
>a lot of sites that publicised the statements by William Cooper and John
>Lear without further comment (I guess that's a good indication about the
>knowledge of UFO research that th ose site-maintainers have - none....). I
>personally don't think that these two idiots deserve any attention, but
>since the wide-spread disinformation about these two, I thought it would be
>a good thing to expose the truth about them. For the same reason y ou won't
>find any of their bogus documents on this site. If it weren't that William
>Cooper is such an unlikely person (understatement.....), his writings might
>have been a popular science-fiction story.
>
>William Cooper created his image as a high ranking (ex-)member of Naval
>Intelligence. In reality, his job consisted nothing more than setting up
>audio-visual equipment and sending out paperwork to the Pacific Fleet
>briefing teams. William Cooper was intro duced by John Lear to the UFO
>Research Community, and made his appearance on the Paranet BBS. After
making
>a total ass out of himselve, this is what Michael Corbin (Paranet Sysop)
has
>to say about him:
>
>First, I don't want to get into any protracted discussions about Bill
>Cooper. All I can say is that we, ParaNet, had a great deal of experience
>with Bill Cooper, up to and including ejecting him from the net for causing
>a variety of disruptions, not to mention strong attacks on other members of
>the net that were counter-productive to intelligent discussion. Our
>organization has investigated Cooper to the max and can find no truth in
>anything he says except that he was in the Navy, but not in the capacity
>that he claims. Further, the tape of the JFK driver has obviously been
>altered. I have a copy of that tape and I have no doubt in my mind that
>someone has edited it to make it look like the driver. The bottom line is
>that Bill Cooper just d oesn't hold water, so anything he says should be
>taken with a large block of salt and tongue planted firmly in cheek.
>
>During that time, a document was placed on Paranet called the "O.H. Krill
>Papers", wich was a very shocking story about the US shadow government,
>cooperation between that group and "Alien Grey's", Underground Alien Bases,
>new world order, and so forth.
>
>His final demise came at the moment that he was being interviewed on a TV
>show together with John Lear. Lear heard William Cooper use the O.H Krill
>name, While John Lear wanted to use the show to announce that he made the
>"O.H. Krill" paper as a "joke" t ogether with with John Grace (Valdemar
>Valerian, who heads the Nevada Aerial Research Organization), William
Cooper
>went on to mention the fact that he had first seen this document while
>working for the Office of Naval Intelligence in the early 1970's.
>
>John Lear immediately pulled William Cooper aside and quietly told him,
>"Bill, O.H. Krill is a joke! John Grace and I used Krill from Bob
>Emenegger's special 'UFO's: It Has Begun' because of a woman who allegedly
>channeled an entity named CRYLLL. Grace ju st pulled the O.H. out of thin
>air!"
>
>William Cooper instantly unleashed his hostile self and in his usual denial
>of reality, replied that Lear was mistaken, insisting that he had seen it
in
>1972 while working for Naval Intelligence. He went on to say that Lear is a
>liar, disinfo agent, etc. and still says so up to the present day. That's
>what happens to all people who "cross" Cooper. He immediately proclaims
them
>to be Evil Agents working for the Conspiracy.
>
>So William Cooper made an ass of himself and left UFOlogy long ago mainly
>because UFOlogists chewed him up and spat him out. (It took them a while
>though.) Now he spends his time ranting about the New World Order and the
>imminent armed take-over of the U.S. by the United Nations. He's a liar and
>a crook (he wants people to send him gold so he can fund the fight against
>the New World Order), and the last I heard of him is that he's the leader
of
>an Anti-Government Militia.
>
>
>In case you would like to read more on this case, I suggeest the following
>articles:
>
>Bo Gritz Says.... Bo Gritz explains why Cooper's security clearance is
bogus
>Lear And Loathing In Las Vegas Sections from the book "UFOs, Aliens, and
>"Ex"-intelligence Agents" by Lars Hansson.
>Behold A Stale Horse by I.M. Feddup
>Whistle Blowers by Don Ecker
>
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spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
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