-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy ----- As always, Caveat Lector. Om K ----- <A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:536081">Subject: News From Mt. Shasta. </A> ----- Subject: Subject: News From Mt. Shasta. From: "John F. Winston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 09 July 1999 02:05 AM EDT Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: News From Mt. Shasta. July 8, 1999. Although I never seem to get around to go to the Wesak celebration that is held around Mt. Shasta during the spring, the information always seems to trickle down to me. Here is some such information. ...................................................................... ...................................................................... From: C D Subject: Sufi Water Folks, this is the most amazing positive information I've read yet. ************************************************************* http://www.transformacomm.com/water/watertalk.htm Mother Earth - The New Consciousness and Sacred Water A Talk presented by Drunvalo Melchezidek Introduction Drunvalo Melchezidek gave this talk on May 1st '99 at the Wesak '99 celebration help at Mount Shasta. The message has such an importance that the word needs to go out there and be spread to all. If the version of the document has been mangled or has parts missing due to multiple forwarding, you can find the original at http://www.transformacomm.com/ in both HTML and TXT (ASCII) format. Please see the bottom of this document for additional notes. Summary of Talk Some Sufi masters in Turkey who had been doing powerful Zikhr chants have presented to the world a water that appears to be alive and have G-d-consciousness. This water has different effects on different things. It seems to have an optimal effect on whatever it touches. They used it in one of the most polluted bays in the world... dark with black bubbles. It became totally clear within a few days. Unfortunately the channels coming into the bay continue to pollute it. Drunvalo Melchezidek had just come from a meeting with F-I, C-A, military officials, and top corporation scientists in Washington where they demonstrated this water in action. It cleared away the most disgusting pollution in glass containers (sewage, oil, chemicals) very quickly with only a teaspoon of the water. They also did experiments with huge ponds of water with the same results. This water also put out chemical and petrochemical fires and methane fires at garbage fill sites that had not been successfully put out before... and the fires would not restart afterwards. It also works the same on forest fires. Some environmental scientists at the meeting said that if a miracle like this had not come along, the earth would be dead within 3 years due to the pollution. The best news is that the governments are willing to allow this water to be used to clear the planet's pollution. This water is called super-ionized water. A company out of Istanbul, Turkey has been started by Ihan Doyuk called Perfect Science. A 48 million-dollar plant has been built in Turkey to produce 100,000 tons of this water a day. The water seems to have many more uses. Drunvalo could not say more due to a confidentiality agreement he had signed. He could not tell us what it does to human bodies but he did say that it may be the most interesting use of the water of all. Complete Transcript of the Talk (Ed: If you want to go directly into the heart of the presentation, skip to Part II) Part I - Setting the stage New concepts and Ideas are coming Drunvalo: Ok. We are ready to begin now. What I am about to tell you about today is one of the more exciting things that I have seen in this world in a long time. This is brand new; you've never heard me talk about it before and it is just beginning in the planet right now. As I see it, we are never going to be the same after this is understood and it is actually really lived in this world. About six years ago, I was in meditation with a man called [Chichi Tad Armachid Vollites (???)], some of you know this [poet (???)]. And, in a single day, he said he had to leave, that him and most of the ascended masters, not all of them, but a great deal of them, had to go on a journey to another universe to live the experience of what we are all going to live very soon, so that they could find a pathway to this new world, this new way of being. And, for about the last six years, I have been alone with the angels and he's been gone. In January of this year, the angels came in and they said that many of them are now returning in the Egyptian window which is between January 10th and January 19th. That a certain group of them was coming back, and were bringing with them the knowledge of what they'd learned over the last six years. Which, in the other dimensional levels was really hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years. And that, with their coming back, new concepts and new ideas that mankind has never known or ever even conceived of before, would now [emerge (???)] on the earth. Ideas we've never ever thought of. So, I am going to give you one of these new ideas, that has... it's new, but it is always in the universe. But we have never seen it ever before, not ever. And, I am going to call this talk, Mother Earth - The New Consciousness and Sacred Water. Laying the Groundwork I am going to talk about water. In fact, I am going to drink some right now (laughter). Water is more than we know. In order to talk about what is going on with water, I have to begin by laying out some groundwork so you can understand a larger context of what I am really talking about here. So, let's imagine ourselves coming in from space for the first time into this solar system. As we pass through all of these different planets, through the outer planets of Pluto and Neptune. As we are making our way in towards the sun, we come to this planet here, that we are on, which is unique and different from all the other ones because it is a water planet. Almost all of the surface of this planet is water. And when you come down to the surface of this planet, the beings that live here, the humans, the dogs, the cats, the trees, and all the life forms that live here, come from water, and are made of water. Our bodies are almost all water. As we live on this water planet, in water bodies, we are attracted to water. If you move through the forest and you come to a river, your heart is pulled to that place, because you can feel the life energy that is there. Water is... alive. It's more alive than we know. And I'm beginning to truly understand what the ancients have said, that the waters are living waters. There was a man named Je--s who began his ministry with baptism; baptism into water. What does that mean? What does it really mean to be baptized in the water? To explain this a little bit, I have to go a little bit mathematical in a way. In ancient times, there were five shapes, the five Platonic solids. Each one of these five Platonic solids had an element associated with them. There was the tetrahedron, the cube, the octahedron, the icosahedron, and the dodecahedron. The tetrahedron was fire. The cube was the earth. The octahedron was air. And the icosahedron was water. And the dodecahedron was prana, or ether. The icosahedron and the dodecahedron are linked together. You can't talk about one without the other. They are what are called in mathematics the duals of each other. You can create one from the other. The icosahedron, being water, was the aspect that this earth was missing since the time of Atlantis. So, the Great W-ite Brotherhood, for the last 13,000 years, and everything that these [decided two orders (???)] have been doing has been around bringing back of the consciousness of water and prana together. Consciousness of water. It really is that simple. That is all that they've been doing. (Ed: The word "Whi-e" in this case has nothing to do with race; rather it stands for that aspect of being that includes all the colors within it and additionally, for purity). If we look at the DNA that which encodes our information, it is made up of only the icosahedron and the dodecahedron. That's all it is. It is water and prana put together. The Christ grid that is around the earth, that we are all familiar [with (???)], that the Great Whit- Brotherhood has been working on for 13,000 years, so that we can move into the next consciousness, is made up of an icosahedron and a dodecahedron: water and prana. (long pause) There is so much around this; there is no way I'd be able to do this in an hour. I can only just give you a little bit. I can't really give you everything here right now, but I will really do my best. All I can say is that there is something very very very special about water; especially water of a certain kind of nature that will change this world. Part A. John Winston. ===== Subject: News From Mt. Shasta. Part B. From: "John F. Winston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 11 July 1999 09:52 AM EDT Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: News From Mt. Shasta. Part B. July 9, 1999. More on water. ...................................................................... ...................................................................... Structured vs. Unstructured Water I will talk now about research that was done in the past around water so you can begin to get a framework to begin to discuss what's now happening in the world. In the University of Georgia, I don't know how long ago it was, it was in the early 1990s, they discovered that every cell in your body that is diseased, or that is harmed in one way or another is surrounded by something called unstructured water. Always, whatever the disease is, it's always surrounded by this unstructured water. They discovered that ever healthy cell, no matter which cell it is, is always surrounded by structured water. So, what is the difference? It is extremely simple. The only difference is in the number of electrons that are in the outer orbits. That is it! That unstructured water is missing these outer electrons. And it causes disease. And water that has these outer electrons and their shells are completed, is healthy. Water flowing through rivers and lakes in natural situations that are not polluted; that water is structured. However, water that goes through a pipe, which almost all of our water that goes into our bodies does, is unstructured. It only takes just a few feet of moving through a pipe under pressure and the water can't rotate the way that it wants to. Instead, it is forced to move in concentric rings. And these concentric rings, rip off the outer electrons and form unstructured water. We are kind of doing what they did in Rome a long time ago... like eating off of lead plates. We are drinking out of high-pressured water pipes that produces disease. There have been many people since this time, when they discovered this, when they realized, "Oh my G-d, we are drinking water that is killing us, what will we do about it?" Then, many many researchers that began to look for ways to quickly restructure the water. One of these was [Walter Von Gardner (???)]. He is a genius in water and probably knows more about it than anybody in the world. He used to be the head of the Walter Russell School for a long time. And he created this sort of an egg shaped glass container that if you put in water in there and certain minerals, colloidal minerals, and stir it in a certain kind of way, that this water became structured and became super alive. If you took a Kirilian photograph of the glass of water before and after. The water, before it used to literally kind of glow of white light around it. But, afterwards, here was a ball of white light about this big around the glass of water. You couldn't even see the glass it was so bright. And people were beginning to understand the difference between structured and unstructured water. After finding, they began to do research into microclusters and different kinds of water. He found that if you put magnets in a hexagonal shape, and ran water through it, it instantaneously structured the water. And so they started doing research in things like swimming pools and hot tubs. Where you could run water going through these pools, the water would not grow bacteria, because it kept it alive. However, the research we did on this when we looked at it, and was able to put it up onto our computer screens to see, like water that was structured in this way. We discovered that it didn't even look like water. It looked like acid. And we began to ask, are we doing more harm than good? Cause, we were like babies, trying to understand something that we just barely knew. And then, a group of people decided to make the water move in rotational patterns in the way it wants to, which was one of the primary keys to make a water alive again. And they found that there were 12 metals. That if you made these 12 metals in a certain way, and the water could move around them, that the water became super alive immediately, without any of this fancy stuff that [Walter Von Gardner (???)] was doing. There was some research done in California in an orange grove which was astounding! They took an orange grove that... they picked this grove because it had consistently given the same yield every year for ten years in a row. It gave two yields every year and the number of oranges was almost exactly the same. So they went there and changed these little nozzles, and they put them to feed each of the trees. That was the only change they made. And, immediately, instantaneously, it went from two yields to five yields. And those yields were 20% higher than before. All they did was sending living water into the trees. Many people have been doing research around this. I cannot bring up all of them... everything they have said and they've done. But, it's been real clear to people who are involved in water that there is something that we have forgotten, or something that we have done, that has changed things, about that idea of what water is. In 1996, I was approached by two people, one named Bob Dratch and Slim Spurling who had created a.... had taken the water from a rain cloud, right before it was going to dump water, before it was going to rain... and had taken that through something called a molecular emission scanner, put it through a special set of software, and into a computer, and then reprogrammed that, that microwave emissions into a sound which you could hear. That sound was then transmitted by an antenna, a coil that Slim made called a Harmonizer, which would projected out in the atmosphere for about 35 miles around. They did this in Denver, through the year of 1995. It actually began in 1994 and they quit in 1996. For the one single year of 1995 in Denver, they had this running, they were just simply projecting out the energy of a rain cloud. Denver became the cleanest it was in the history of their recording... ever, for one year. The moment they quit, in 1996, it became polluted again. They asked me to begin to do research in this also. In June of 1996, in Phoenix Arizona, we began to do a similar test using something called the R-2, which is certain little coils combined in a way, that act as an antenna to put out whatever waveform or vibration we wished. At that time, Phoenix was in the most polluted state it had ever been in its recorded history. They were going into a "serious" rating, and the government itself was freaked out, because they didn't know what to do. They wouldn't allow us to do the research let us say, legally, so we had to use certain laws for us to do this work without their welcome, and we did it anyway. >From September 1st of 1996 the system was running fully until May of 1998. We noticed that a city as polluted, that you could hardly breathe in, you couldn't even see more than a few blocks, in the city was so bad. In a very short time, went clear and clean and you could breathe again. That the birds and the animals came back. That the whole nature of the clouds above it changed, that the smell went away, it got clean. It became very exciting. I though that we had really found a true answer, for the world to turn itself clean of the pollution. And it did work! From September 1st of 1996 until May of 1998. Phoenix was the cleanest it has ever been in their recorded history. We had the hydrocarbons in the center of the city down to single digits and many times down to zero... not recording anything at all, it was so clean. This was encouraging, because you see, from everything I am being told from the Ascended Masters and from the angelic realms, we can't leave here until we clean up our place. It is part of our consciousness. It was our consciousness that created the earth the way and state that it is now. In a state where it is dying. And before we leave, it is our responsibility, as spiritual beings, with the awareness that is now emerging on this earth, to clean our world and to bring in back into health the way it was before. I have been working in every way I know, to fulfill this. Clustered Water Fourteen years ago, a new kind of water emerged on the earth; a water never seen before, never heard of, never known existed. This water is called clustered water. The water looks under a microscope like snowflakes. It's formed in little hexagons, little hexagonal patterns. This water is found in all babies: human babies, baby trees, baby horses. All babies are filled with clustered water. But very soon, we lose that, and it goes into structured water. And then very soon, because of the way we live in this polluted world, it begins to move into unstructured water. This is a... The research around clustered water is new. It appears to be a definite step forward in allowing consciousness inside the human body to emerge faster. continued in part 2 Warmest regards, Constance Demby ;;*;;<<@>>;;*;;<<@>>;;*;;<<@>> http://www.portalmarket.com/demby.html email us your snail mail address for a brochure on the music Sound Currents 2461 Santa Monica Blvd, Suite 434 Santa Monica, CA 90404 310 712 5469 vm Part B. John Winston. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Subject: News From Mt. Shasta. Part C. From: "John F. Winston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 12 July 1999 09:53 AM EDT Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: News From Mt. Shasta. Part C. July 11, 1999. Now we will call it Sufi Water. ...................................................................... ...................................................................... From: C D Subject: Sufi Water. I - The Miracle The Discovery of a New Type of Water But now, something else has happened. Something that so extraordinary .... I don't even know how to actually tell you this. I'll do my best. Ten years ago... a little more I believe, there was a small group of very old Sufi masters, that were chanting Zikhr in Turkey. They are quiet, and nobody knows about them. And they have been creating something; or, allowing something to come through them that mankind has never seen. One of these men came forth from this group. He is also a Sufi master, he is 78 years old. He looks like and feels like he is about 40. You'd never know that he an older person. He gave something to the world... he just gave them some water. Some water that mankind has never seen. He said, "Here, this is for the healing of the world". They began to do research. And they found that whenever they put this water, in a polluted lake, or a polluted river, then it would immediately, within days, usually 3 or 4 days, the whole lake, the whole river would go absolutely clean, the way it was 1000 years ago. Even the sediment and everything inside there. Nobody could believe it, but they had to believe it because they could see it. But, they couldn't believe it. And they continued to do research for 10 years. In January, which happens to be exactly in the Egyptian window when the angels were telling me that something new is going to emerge on the earth, they tried to get in contact with me. But I was too busy roaming around the world. They kept trying and trying. And I kept saying "No, no, I can't do this, I don't have time". Finally, about three months ago, I still didn't have time, but I sent some of the people I work with into Florida to see if what they were saying was really true. These were people who were trained and could identify if this was something real or just an illusion. They couldn't... they got on the phone with me and they couldn't even talk. They were like children, they were so excited. They were just going, "I can't believe this, it's really real". It actually was true! The Demonstration Meeting And so I just came back from a meeting in Washington D.C., in a secret little room with the military, the Air Force, the army, the C-A, the -BI... (laughter) all those guys, about 15 high high level physicists and chemists from major corporations. This was being held in a Fortune 500 corporation. I had to sign all of these documents that I would be careful about what I say. But they are letting me say what I can say, and what I can say is good enough. They first brought two big containers of polluted water. One of them smelled like sewage. It was brown, it was yucky, and it was about as bad as you can get. And they put that there. The second one was another kind of yellowish colored brown polluted water that smelled like gasoline and oil and obviously had chemicals inside of it. And it was hard to even get your nose into that either. They put them up high, and Mr. Ihan Doyuk said, "Now this is like a lake". And he took about a teaspoonful, which he said was way more than was needed but they did that so that it would go faster, he put a little teaspoonful of water in there and stepped back so that there would be no influence. And, very slowly, over two hours, we watched both of these waters, the pollution slowly head towards the bottom. What was above was the cleanest, clearest water you could imagine, until they were all the way down at the bottom. And there was nothing, even the sediment and everything was down to absolutely clear water. This is really real! He then took a little goldfish and he put it inside there so that it could swim around to show that if there were to be any chemicals or anything in there it would die. And after three hours, this little fish was still swimming. What is interesting... they called me up. The head of this whole project, called me up the next day and said, "You won't believe it. They took the fish out of the water and put it back into the aquarium downstairs and when they came in the next morning, the whole aquarium was clean" (laughter). It totally went clean and clear. They took pure motor oil right out of the can, popped the lid, poured it with another whole bunch of oil like this, put about 3 or 4 drops of water and shook it up. Instantaneously, within 3 seconds, the motor oil no longer existed on the earth. Instead, it was proteins and amino acids... that are fish food. Instantaneously! This is an interesting analogy because oil is the end product of millions of years of life. It is the end, it is black, it is the end. And when it comes in contact with this water, it immediately turns white and becomes proteins and amino acids; the beginning of life. Super-ionized Water What is this water? All it is, is water with 3 extra electrons on the outer orbits. It is called super-ionized water. You're going to hear about it. There is no doubt! Super-ionized water is... Again, all the scientists and the physicists and the chemists of the world have been studying this for the past few years who have been keeping it secret. Not one of them, with all their credentials and everything, even though they can see it happen, cannot explain to you how it is happening. They don't know! They can't figure it out. On top of this, by studying the reaction, and there is some things I can't tell you, it appears as though this water is consciousness, it is alive and it knows what it's doing! It knows exactly what it's doing because it... it will go into one reaction, one chemical reaction and do one thing, and turn another reaction with a similar kind of compound, and do something else that could only have been done by consciousness. You know that something is different about this water, because if you take a light bulb, an ordinary light bulb, and you cut the wire so that if you put the two wires together the light bulb will go on. If you stick those two wires in water which is a dielectric, nothing happens, it is like an unlit light bulb. But if you put the wires in super-ionized water, the light bulb comes on. No one has ever seen that before. That is impossible by everything that we know. And there is a flow of electrical energy through the water, that they are describing as liquid electrons. This came from Sufi teachers and masters as a gift to the world. If you could only know what I know, if you could only see what I have seen. Cleaning up of Izmit Bay They went into Izmit Bay in Istanbul in Turkey. (Ed: In the talk, he mentions Izmir Bay, which is far from Istanbul and is still polluted. Izmit Bay which is 45 minutes from Istanbul is the one which has gone clean and where fish have returned) Izmit Bay is so polluted. It is the most polluted body of water on the planet. It looks like pure oil. It is black. It is not water anymore. It is just black oil. And they took these two huge tanks, like swimming pools and they filled it up with this black water. One was the control and one was the experiment. And they took just a couple of gallons of this water, in these hundreds and hundreds of thousands of gallons of this garbage water. It was so bad that it was forming black bubbles on the surface. In less than a few hours, the pool went crystal clear. It was clean. They then went to Izmit Bay, and the entire bay went clean, the whole thing. But they can't keep it that way because it got canals as big as this room (Ed: the talk was giving in a school gymnasium) with garbage being pumped into the bay constantly which they are going to have to deal with if they want to keep it that way. The other interesting thing about this is no matter what the polluted water is, no matter what is in it, it turns it to this crystal clean pure water and even balances the pH perfectly to 7, no matter what it is, no matter what you started with. He has done it some many times now he doesn't even have to look. He sticks the paper and says, "Look, it is 7" without even thinking because it automatically does it. The consciousness knows exactly what to do in that system and how to convert it back into it.` Also Works on Land and Soil It is not only in water, does the water work, but the water works on the earth also, and in the soil. They showed in the videos and in the actual [room (???)] they are talking about where you can take garbage, huge garbage dumps, that are constantly burning methane, they can't stop the burning cause it keeps burning... they can spray this water on the garbage dumps and instantaneously, everything is transformed. All of the hydrocarbons in there switch, turn over into fertilizer, and are organic in nature, they have no chemicals in it whatsoever even though they came from chemicals. All of the smell of the garbage dump is gone, instantaneously at the snap of a finger. It smells like roses. It smells clean again. The fires are immediately put out and can't start again. They showed on there that in these places were all of these toxic stuff were put and everything that within days, plants and vegetables start growing out of these toxic dumps. This is really real. It's no kidding, it's really real. It's hard to imagine that something can emerge under the earth like this, but it actually happens. Also Many Other Side Effects There are many many side effects that are super positive and most of these they won't let me talk to you about because the financial status quo will be rocked to the core. There are things that it does that water can't do, but it does, right before their eyes, time and time again. It has an impact on us, and will have an impact on us that, we can't quite imagine right now. Just to give you one of the side effects that they are going to let out, I'm only going to talk about one of them. It is about fires, forest fires, or oil fires, or any kind of fires, especially gasoline and oil which are almost impossible to put out. When the water comes into contact with these fires, it instantaneously puts them out, just like that. And you can't relight them. You can throw matches back on to them, on the gasoline, immediately, and it won't relight because it changes the gasoline into something else that can't burn. And so, for forest fires, if they spray it on burning forest fires, it instantly will put the fire out. And on living trees, which is super good for the tree, that tree will not be able to burn for hours afterwards. So, it puts the fire out immediately, instantly. This is one of the side effects of this new water, that we...I really wish I could tell you what is going to come after this (laughter). Part C. John Winston. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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