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At 08:48 AM 7-23-1999 -0400, June wrote:
>
>On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Bill Kingsbury wrote:
>>
>> A reporter witnessed a 'big white flash in the sky'
>> at the time of the crash. This is the clue...
>
>Can you -- or ANYONE -- give a citation for this assertion that ANYONE,
>whether a reporter or not, saw a 'big white flash in the sky at the time
>of the crash'...
>
>I've seen this assertion in various emails for a couple of days now, but
>no one ever gives the name of the reporter, what news outlet reported
>this, WHEN they reported, etc.
The reporter's name was apparently
never given to the public :
_____________________________________________________________
see paragraph 32, below :
" A reporter for the Vineyard Gazette newspaper told WCVB-TV
in Boston that he was out walking Friday night about the
time of the crash and saw "big white flash in the sky" off
Philbin Beach. "
You could ask Vineyard Gazette :
phone: 508-627-4311
mail: P.O. Box 66, Edgartown, MA 02539
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.mvgazette.com
_____________________________________________________________
the original source article :
http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=95934
Hopes fade for missing Kennedy plane
Sunday, 18 July 1999 2:08 (GMT)
UPI Focus
AQUINNAH, Mass., July 17 (UPI) - After a daylong unsuccessful
search for a missing single-engine plane piloted by John F.
Kennedy Jr., the National Transportation Safety Board is
launching an investigation into the aircraft's disappearance.
An official statement tonight says an NTSB team has been
dispatched to Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts as the Coast
Guard continues to coordinate "aggressive search-and-rescue
activities."
As daylight faded, Air Force helicopters returned to Otis
Air Force Base, to resume the search Sunday morning.
Hopes faded today as bits of debris from the Piper Saratoga
were recovered and a piece of luggage was positively
identified as belonging to Lauren Bessette, Kennedy's
sister-in-law. Kennedy's wife, 33-year-old Carolyn Bessette,
was also traveling with him.
The luggage, along with what appeared to be an airplane tire,
washed up on Philbin Beach on Martha's Vineyard, and Lauren
Bessette's name was on the tag of a black suitcase, said
First District Coast Guard spokesman Lt. Gary Jones.
Jones said other debris -- a head rest and carpeting that
appeared to be from the plane -- were found this afternoon
floating in the water about 100 yards from nearby Gay Head
Beach.
Kennedy and the Bessette sisters were traveling from
Caldwell, New Jersey, to Hyannis Port for the wedding of
Mark Bailey and Rory Kennedy, the last unmarried daughter
of Ethel Kennedy and the late Sen. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
The event was postponed, and what should have been a joyous
gathering of the clan turned into a grim vigil as members
of the Kennedy family waited anxiously at their storied
oceanfront compound for word on the fate of the three.
An outdoor family mass was held, presided over by three
Roman Catholic priests, as Mrs. Kennedy, other family
members and around 275 guests gathered to pray.
Among those present were Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.,
former U.S. Rep. Joseph Kennedy, Rory's older brother and
JFK Jr.'s cousin, and U.S. Housing Secretary Andrew Cuomo,
who is married to Kerry Kennedy.
John Kennedy's older sister, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg,
was away on a rafting trip and had not planned to attend
the wedding.
Sen. Kennedy's son, Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., was also
away in California and immediately flew back to Boston,
according to media reports.
Family spokesman Brian O'Connor said the family was initially
hopeful that the three would be found alive.
But he said the mood at the compound turned somber when
debris, apparently from the plane, began washing up on
the western end of Martha's Vineyard.
There was no immediate comment from any of the family members.
Before the effort was scaled back at sunset, Rear Adm.
Richard M. Larrabee told journalists the Coast Guard was
still in a search-and-rescue mode. But the dispatch of
federal investigators suggests authorities are now presuming
the plane has crashed.
Coast Guard cutters equipped with high-powered lights will
continue to search the sea south of Martha's Vineyard
throughout the night.
Earlier in the day, the Civil Air Patrol withdrew from the
search 15 aircraft that were combing a 15-by-15-mile grid
from Long Island to Martha's Vineyard after debris and
luggage washed ashore on Philbin Beach.
Jones said the Coast Guard was notified about the missing
plane at around 3 a.m. EDT, and the search started
immediately.
About 15 Coast Guard and Air Force aircraft and some 150
personnel joined in the search.
Kennedy, a licensed private pilot, was expected to arrive at
Martha's Vineyard Airport in Massachusetts in his Piper
Saratoga II TC sometime before 10 p.m. Friday.
At 9:39 p.m. Friday, Kennedy radioed the airport and said he
was 13 miles from the airport and 10 miles from the coast,
according to WCVB-TV news in Boston. He reportedly said he
was making his final approach.
Moments later, radar operated by the Federal Aviation
Administration showed the plane went into a dive and dropped
1,200 feet in just 12 seconds, according to ABC News.
In his final approach message, WCVB-TV said Kennedy told
controllers at the airport that he planned to drop off his
wife's sister and then take off again between 11 p.m. and
11:30 p.m. for Hyannis Airport.
Kennedy's family then called Hyannis Airport -- around 2:15
a.m., reports say -- when he failed to arrive. The airport
then checked with the Martha's Vineyard airport, and the
search began.
The plane took off from Essex County Airport in Caldwell,
N.J., at 8:38 p.m. Friday and lost contact with the FAA on
its final approach to Martha's Vineyard, Mass., said Coast
Guard spokesman Steve Carleton.
An emergency beacon thought to belong to the plane was
activated and heard by the Coast Guard in Long Island, N.Y.,
at 3:40 a.m. But as the search went on, authorities seemed
to discount the relevance of the beacon signal.
Kurt Hartman, spokesman for the U.S. Coast Guard's district
headquarters in New Haven, Conn., said this morning, "We
received a call from our district office in Boston directing
us to conduct a shoreline search off Horton Point, in Long
Island Sound, for an emergency locating transmitting beacon."
But by 10:30 a.m., the Coast Guard was no longer receiving a
signal from the emergency beacon that was believed to be on
Kennedy's small plane.
Petty Officer Virginia Adams in Boston confirmed to United
Press International that the Coast Guard lost the signal
Saturday morning. Adams also confirmed that Kennedy was
piloting the plane, and that his wife and sister-in-law
were aboard.
Jamie Gaspar, spokesman for Martha's Vineyard Airport,
told UPI that "someone was at the airport to pick up the
passengers on the plane, but it never arrived."
A reporter for the Vineyard Gazette newspaper told WCVB-TV
in Boston that he was out walking Friday night about the
time of the crash and saw "big white flash in the sky" off
Philbin Beach.
Kennedy did not file a flight plan, leading some to first
suspect he altered his route. But by 9 a.m., his arrival
at Martha's Vineyard was more than 12 hours late, and the
Kennedy family postponed the wedding he was traveling to
attend.
The Air Force and Air National Guard mounted a massive air
search using helicopters, Falcon jets and a TC-130 aircraft
over a 1,000-square-mile search area that eventually
concentrated on Martha's Vineyard.
The ongoing Coast Guard search involves a 47-foot utility
boat, two 41-foot utility boats and an 87-foot patrol boat,
as well as two Coast Guard helicopters.
Expected to join the search late tonight was a special ship
from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
equipped with sonar to conduct underwater searches.
A special infrared-equipped helicopter was also set to join
the nighttime search. Its temperature-sensitive equipment
is capable of detecting a person in the water.
Kennedy Jr. -- the only son of President John F. Kennedy
and Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, and the nephew of Sen. Ted
Kennedy, D-Mass. -- has worked as an assistant district
attorney and is currently the editor of the political
magazine George. Kennedy, 38, married Carolyn Bessette
during a secretive ceremony in 1996.
WCVB-TV says Kennedy got his pilot's license last year after
undergoing training at Flight Safety International, a
respected pilots' school in Florida. He was licensed to fly
visually, but not by using instruments alone. Visibility at
the time was reported to be 8 miles, clear enough to fly
without instruments.
The Piper Aircraft Co. says the six-passenger plane Kennedy
was flying was built in 1995. WCVB-TV says Kennedy bought it
in April of this year.
White House Chief of Staff John Podesta telephoned President
Clinton this morning at Camp David with news of the missing
plane. Clinton and Kennedy have met often.
In a statement issued from Camp David, where he is spending
the weekend, Clinton said, "All our prayers and thoughts are
with the families of those on board." The president has
asked to be kept informed about the search effort.
Kennedy is a native of Washington. He was born on Nov. 25,
1960, just two months before his father was inaugurated as
president.
Copyright 1999 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.
>
>I find it very suspicious...first, that a reporter would conveniently be
>in the area to witness this, and yet no one else in the area seems to
>have noticed it....
"Reportedly," at least four other people also DID notice;
they "SAW and HEARD an explosion in the air" :
" A reporter for the Vineyard Gazette newspaper told WCVB-TV in
Boston that he was out walking Friday night about the time of the
crash and saw a "big white flash in the sky" just off Philbin
Beach. Luggage, a tire, plexiglas, pieces of the cowling have all
washed up on Philbin Beach. Said reporter has now partially
recanted his story by stating that "perhaps It was a bright light
from an explosion, but he just cannot be sure". Reporter has been
"gotten to", compromised. Unknown as to by who, at this time.
Several local news reports initially (reported) that several people
SAW and HEARD an explosion in the air over the ocean South of
Martha's Vineyard towards Eastern Long Island, at the same time
that subject's plane "went missing". We have confirmed these
reports by speaking with 4 of the witnesses whom have asked to
remain anonymous. Detected definite fear on their part. "
The above is excerpted from the (alleged) INTERPOL report,
a copy of which was posted by Kris to CTRL :
From: NewsHawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:29:48 +0000
Subj: Official Investigative Report-JFK Jr. MURDERED!
(subscribe - email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: SUBSCRIBE )
>
>One would think that the Martha's Vineyard air control personnel would
>have taken notice of a bright flash, especially when Kennedy's plane
>didn't land....
The airport may not be near that part of the island...
>
>No, the ONLY account of a witness that was reported on in the first
>hours, reported live on MSNBC between 10:30 and 11am EDT on Saturday
>morning, and also recounted in the New York Times, is of a man who was
>out fishing that night, who reported seeing the lights on the plane,
>which appeared to be flying at about 40 feet above the water; if his
>account is accurate, it would seem that Kennedy, if he DID nosedive as
>later reports spun the version of what possibly happened, he seems to
>have recovered, albeit at an abnormally low altitude. According to the
>witness, the plane was circling and approaching the Martha's Vineyard
>airport from a direction which the witness claimed was common for pilots
>who missed their first approach to the landing strip...
Was the fisherman near Philbin Beach, or on the other side of
the island ? Did he specify the exact time of his sighting ?
Did he see a different plane - and not the Kennedy plane ?
Without time and location specifics, this report is not useful.
The currently- alleged crash site, and radar results, indicate
Kennedy NEVER reached the island, and therefore the reports of
appearing to "circle for a second landing attempt" may possibly
be either bogus, or referring to a different plane.
Also, perhaps the "circling plane" was an "attack craft"
(possibly a Piper Saratoga, also) -- which was waiting with
an anti-personnel laser to blind its assigned target.
Possibly the fisherman witnessed this plane turning off
its lights to assume "stealth attack mode."
>
>MSNBC went on to state that this witness then said that both the lights
>and the sounds of the engine (which to the witness said did not sound in
>trouble) 'disappeared without a sound'....no explosion, no blinding
>flash, not even the sound of a splash into the water...it was just there
>one second, and not there the next...
>
>Whatever THAT might imply, the fact remains that his account remains the
>earliest reported account -- reported in at least TWO media outlets --
>of someone who WAS in a position to be an eyewitness...and his version
>is the exact opposite of a 'blinding flash in the sky'....
>
>So I'd like some confirmation of where this 'blinding flash' version of
>events came from, what media outlets have reported it, and more
>revealing, WHO the reporter is who 'just happened' to be in the area,
>and who the reporter works for.
>
>
>> Blinding by Incindiary Flash Warhead ?
>>
>> or Military- Laser Ocular Disintegrator ?
>>
>> or Montauk Particle Beam Weapon ?
>
>A kid with a laserlight keychain, fooling around?
>
>If Kennedy was blinded by either of the things you mention above, why
>didn't he radio the airport that he was having trouble? Or his wife or
>sister-in-law?
Perhaps all passengers were blinded by a "blinding device."
Kennedy would have been disoriented -- obviously he lost
control of the airplane -- and his full attention was
obviously consumed in his attempt to regain control of
the airplane. If the plane was in a spin, and ten seconds
from a fatal crash, he (obviously) ran out of time to
attempt radio contact -- and he couldn't even see his radio
if he was blinded.
Point being: no messy bombs necessary, they leave traces.
Bright lights leave no traces on the wreckage, and the skills
of the pilot are then "entirely" to blame for the crash.
Also, radios can be jammed.
>
>When the supposed evidence is CRITICALLY analyzed, we really don't have
>PROOF that they even made it to Martha's Vineyard...
That's what the official reports are now indicating....
>what we DO have is
>the airport, claiming almost 12 hours after the search for the plane
>commenced, to have been in contact with him shortly before he was due to
>land. If this is true, why did they let the searchers roam far and wide
>during the first 12 hours of the search -- as you remember, Saturday
>morning and well into Satruday afternoon, we were being told that
>searchers HAD NO IDEA WHERE TO SEARCH....
>
>But then suddenly the Martha's Vineyard airport 'remembers' they talked
>to Kennedy when he was only a few miles out from the island...why then
>didn't they alert the authorities to that 'fact' early on?
Friday night is party night, and as things were going slow,
they went outside for a smoke -- and someone put GHB in
their diet coke ?
Or, someone used NLP + hypnosis to convince them they'd
already reported the incident ?
Something smells very fishy...
>
>You may also remember that most of Saturday we were told Kennedy's plane
>was of the type where it wouldn't record on radar, and hence there were
>no records of where exactly it travelled on it's way to Cape Cod...this
>was also mentioned as a reason searchers didn't know where exactly to
>look for the plane....
>
>And yet suddenly we were told not only WAS the plane recorded on the MV
>airport's radar, but 2 others, allowing a 'triangulation' that not only
>pinpointed the plane -- actually, what can be said with any validity is
>that the radar recorded A plane, PRESUMED to be Kennedy's -- but it's
>supposed rate of descent....
>
>(remember, the eyewitness report which is the earliest substantiated
>report, does NOT mention the plane in a nosedive, but flying parallel
>with the ocean, albeit only 40 feet up...)
Which plane was that ?
Perhaps a prowling laser attack craft ?
>
>So the FACT remains that for at least the first 12 hours of the search
>on Sunday, searchers were diverted AWAY from Martha's Vineyard...
>
>Which leaves us with only two options: either the Martha's Vineyard
>airport is lying when it says it talked to Kennedy shortly before he
>told them he was going to land there; or they deliberately withheld that
>information for 12 hours from the search and rescue parties. Either
>option is 'troubling', to say the least.
>
>And now, conveniently, the bodies have been buried at sea, preempting
>any researchers/investigators from possibly exhuming the bodies at a
>later date for further investigation...
>
>
>> The bodies are cremated --
>
>WHOSE bodies? This is the first I've heard of cremation...I heard that
>they were buried at sea, I didn't hear that they were cremated...if they
>were cremated, there would be no reason to 'bury them at sea', altho the
>families may have wished to have a ceremony of scattering the ashes at
>sea. No, it's my understanding that the bodies were NOT cremated, and
>that 3 coffins were dumped overboard...
they were cremated, as reported in :
From: NewsHawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999
Subj: JFK Jr.- What autopsy, what pictures, what bodies?
I also heard it on an ABC TV report...
>
>Perhaps with bodies in them, perhaps not...at this point, we can only
>take the version we are being spoon fed...which, based on the
>discrepancies of what is being claimed regarding Kennedy talking to the
>MV airport before landing, must be taken with a grain of salt....
>
>The PUBLIC has not seen the wreckage, nor have we seen the bodies...we
>have only been TOLD that they were found...
>
>
>> JFK Jr. radioed the airport at Martha's Vineyard at 9:39
>> p.m. on Friday, July 16, for his final approach. He told
>> the control tower operator that he was 13 miles from the
>> airport and ten miles from the coast.
>
>And yet the airport then did NOT issue an alert that Kennedy's plane was
>missing when he failed to land...one would have thought the airport
>would have alerted authorities by shortly after 10pm that a plane that
>was due to land was now missing...especially if a supposed 'blinding
>flash' was seen in the area....
I doubt the 'blinding flash' was visible from the airport,
and the person who reported it did not (then) know of any
missing plane. Since he (and the flash) was not near the
airport, he (apparently) did not have a reason to report it
to the airport. (Or, perhaps he actually did report it...)
The alleged INTERPOL report (excerpted above) claims this
reporter was subsequently "gotten to" (by the CIA?) -- and
"told" to change his story...
Why don't you contact the Vineyard Gazette
for the "real" story ?
>
>At the very least, you would think the airport would have let
>authorities know that they talked to Kennedy when he was only 10 miles
>from the coast, instead of letting them search all of Long Island Sound,
>and the Atlantic south of Long Island westwards back to New Jersey, in
>an attempt to find evidence of where he went down....if the airport had
>let them know early on, they could have concentrated their search
>efforts around Martha's Vineyard instead of wasting their time and
>efforts elsewhere...
>
>So why didn't the airport SAY anything about their talking to Kennedy
>until sometime Saturday afternoon?
>
>
>> "A reporter for the Vineyard Gazette newspaper told WCVB-TV
>> in Boston that he was out walking Friday night about the
>> time of the crash and saw a 'big white flash in the sky'
>> off Philbin Beach," UPI reported.
>
>No name for the reporter is given...wonder why not?
>
>And one would wonder why HE didn't come forward on Saturday morning to
>report what he saw -- some 'reporter' -- indeed, why he didn't 'report'
>what he saw at the time he saw it...since such a 'big white flash in the
>sky' would presumably indicate a plane in trouble....
>
>It took a good day or two for this version to see the light, so I still
>don't trust it...seems to me any 'reporter' would have been bending over
>backwards to get on all the news shows on Saturday morning to tell about
>the 'big white flsh in the sky' he saw the night before...
>
>But doing so again would have pinpointed the Vineyard as where the plane
>supposedly went down...and the facts of the matter seem to point to the
>desire of 'someone' to DIVERT the search from the Vineyard, at least in
>the first hours....
>
>
>June ;-)
>
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