-Caveat Lector- Here's some information, Sincerely, Neil Brick from: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-17.htm The following article comes from a radio interview between Wayne Morris (interviewer) and Claudia Mullen (alleged mind control survivor) on CKLN FM 88.1 Ryerson Polytechnic University, Toronto, INTERNATIONAL CONNECTION - Tape 15A. Details on how to receive this interview will follow the article. Please use caution while reading. It may be triggering. The words "alleged" have been added and are not part of the original transcript. This information comes from "Part 3 of an interview" that Wayne Morris "conducted with Claudia Mullen, an alleged survivor of US government mind control. Claudia describes what she remembers of the alleged mind control experiments at Tulane University in New Orleans that started when she was eight years old. Claudia is alleging that the CIA and U.S. military experimented on her and other children using severe trauma, drugs, electroshock, hypnosis and other methods to control her. She claims she was allegedly trained to sexually please men by the CIA and was allegedly used as a young child and a young woman for sexual entrapment of military and government officials." In this transcript "she talks about how she was used, the doctors involved in the experiments, and the mind control projects she remembers being involved with." In one section, Claudia discusses how she was traumatized by some of the doctors. " Sometimes they would allegedly send me to . . . people (they knew) in the city who were involved in the white supremacy groups . . . sometimes they would send me out to alleged Klan (my bold) meetings and I would have to go to one of them at night and watch things being done to other people and then . . . have things done to me . . . be raped or eaten or whatever . . . you had enough trauma to make you forget whatever you were starting to remember. This would make it go away. Then you would forget this as soon as it happened too. Because nobody wants to remember something like that. One of the mind's defenses I guess when something really horrible happens is to forget it right away, usually. If it's bad enough. And then of course I had the personalities . . . they would come out for the trauma and then they would go back . . . and so Claudia would have no memory of what just happened. My shadows would, but I wouldn't. Unless they would give me the memory, it was as if it never happened to me." Claudia also discussed how dissociation occurred. "They knew that I could dissociate from the beginning, so they just caused me to dissociate even more, because the more you split, the easier it was to hide what they were doing. In other words, you can only split . . . they can't make you split, can't make you dissociate, but they can create the circumstances that they know if you are able to dissociate you will, you will do it. Like the trauma I just described, by sending me out to an alleged Masonic Lodge (my bold) for a party . . . they would send me out and they knew something horrible was going to happen to me. They knew that I would split. That someone would be created to take whatever happened that night, and probably that's all they would do, and then they would go back, and then, you know, go to sleep, become dormant." Then Claudia talked about how the doctors would "cover their tracks" and about the alleged abuse in the Masonic Lodge (my bold). "So they would kind of mimic Satanic rituals to make it seem like that had happened, and if I ever told anybody, they would dismiss it right away . . . To make it seem, if I ever remembered, I would remember first the incest stuff, the stuff at home, and then it would gradually go from that to the ritual stuff. Rituals meaning either Satanic stuff across the lake . . . rituals . . . like the white supremacy groups . . . like the rituals that they do . . . burning the crosses. I mean I actually allegedly saw them kill people, black people. This is like in the early 60's. I allegedly went to a couple of Masonic (my bold) parties at a Lodge which was located right near the research building . . . the research building for animal research in New Orleans, and it is still there as a matter of fact. I have been back there. They allegedly sent me there sometimes, for certain tests, for experiments . . . there was a Masonic Lodge right around the corner from it . . . and they allegedly sent me to a couple of parties there. These people go crazy at these parties. These men, they just get drunk and . . . they pass you around . . . it's horrible what they do. This of course makes it seem like . . . if I remember . . . well, I remember being at this party and these men were hurting me but I don't remember doctors being involved, I don't remember Tulane University being involved, or anybody from Maryland. I allegedly would remember this Masonic Lodge and so that's how they cover their tracks . . . They would allegedly make you perform sexually. They would make you watch other people perform. They would have everything you could imagine, even bringing in animals . . . and you had to watch. It's just as bad as having it done to yourself . . . sometimes watching is just as bad . . . Especially if it's people younger than yourself. You're a child and you have to stand there and watch a little kid, half your age, being tortured or raped, or whatever. I mean, that's as bad as having it done to yourself. You would almost rather it be done to you because ... you know what it's like, and you don't want to watch it. Then they would give you the choice . . . well, then, you could take their place. And then you would have to make the decision whether it's going to be you or her, and then if you decide not to do it, then you have to live with the guilt that it happened to someone else because you decided not to do it. So they had you either way you looked at it . . . you're screwed either way usually. There was no way out of any of these situations. WAYNE MORRIS: When you remember this Lodge, did you make attempts to verify where it was? CLAUDIA MULLEN: Yeah, we went there. We went to the Lodge, talked to people, but it's not an (alleged) Lodge anymore, it's a public health building now. We talked to people who said, yeah, it was a Masonic Lodge at one time (my bold)." Please use caution while reading this section. On the rest of the transcript of Tape 15A, Claudia talks about more about mind control programming and some of the alleged connections between the various doctors and others involved. These people allegedly included: Sidney Gottlieb, Martin Orne (who is allegedly on the FMSF Scientific and Professional Advisory Board), Dr. Steven Aldridge, Morse Allen, Dr. Ewen Cameron (mentioned in "The Search for the Manchurian Candidate"), Dr. Heath and Mr. Fenner. The radio series Mind CONTROL IN CANADA (note: this resource may be triggering) is on CKLN 88.1 FM. This radio series is on Canadian involvement in U.S. CIA and military mind control programs and the alleged links to ritual abuse. For information on how to receive a transcript of the entire interview: CKLN-FM Radio, 380 Victoria Street, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M5B 1W7, Phone: (416) 595-1477, Fax: (416) 595-0226, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
