-Caveat Lector- ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "Linda Muller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:55:45 -0700 Subject: [BRIGADE] High-Tech Sellout Praised by BusinessWeek Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] approved: nonwo! Dear Brigade, "[H]igh tech is a cyclical field. Layoffs are frequent. In Summer of 1998, I was laid off along with 41 others from my company as a result of the semiconductor downturn. Among those laid off were Americans with many years of experience and top-notch achievements. I know because we all went to an outplacement seminar the next day. In fact, American workers were predominant in the group. The H-1B�s kept their jobs at that company. Whose country is it anyway? Those H-1B workers should be temporary and should go home when layoffs occur..." >From Pat Buchanan - Press release 7/2/99 H-1B INCREASE BETRAYS AMERICAN WORKERS: "The elite of both parties are now in an unseemly competition to see who can do more to pander to the super-rich by selling out the American worker. There is no shortage of Americans who qualify for these $50,000 and $75,000-a year high-tech jobs; there is no shortage of young Americans in college, preparing for these jobs ....... To allow Silicon Valley to import scores of thousands more foreign workers every year, to take the jobs of the future that would otherwise go to Americans, represents a betrayal of the American middle class by a selfish slice of our corporate elite. Unfortunately, that corporate elite has both Beltway parties snuggly in its wallet pocket..." GOOOOOO PAT GO!! Linda ----------------------------------------------- From: "L Q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Business Week article Date sent: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:45:37 PDT To Laura D'Andrea Tyson, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) August 3, 1999 I have disagreements with your piece below. But first of all, I have to wonder if your views are legitimately yours, given that many ITAA firms give large donations to the Haas school. 'You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.' But let's assume that you wrote this independent of financial donations. As for myself, I am an electrical engineer, American & male. I lived and worked in Silicon Valley for several years. Now I work in another locale in the high tech field. In the first part of your letter, you go into statistics about unemployment rates and future employment in the IT field. You later use these statistics to argue for increased H-1B numbers, as if immigration should be based on how our economy is doing. Laura, America is a COUNTRY, not just an economic abstraction. But let's look at your statistics again. If the commerce dept. is right in its prediction of 1.3 million new IT jobs over the next decade, then that should act as a great pull for American students to enter the field. In fact, it's happening, with a recent 40% increase in computer science enrollments. Who would you rather see get American jobs, American students or foreigners? Don't you think our own should be the first to be recruited? If there are shortages, the ENTIRE focus should be on educating, training, and re-training AMERICANS for these jobs. Constantly advocating the massive import of foreigners is treasonous. What also needs to be added is that the recent ITAA 'study' that asserted 346,000 openings in IT was found to be highly flawed by the Department of Labor. Anyway, there will ALWAYS be job openings in the field. Companies and industries expand and contract, creating unemployment and job opportunities. That's the job market. Seeing job advertisements in the paper is NOT cause to import the foreigners. Who started Silicon Valley? Americans. OVERWHELMINGLY. You reference Prof. Annalee Saxenian's assertions that 'such immigrants have been a major source of new job and wealth creation, bringing skills, creativity, capital, and links with global markets.' And Americans have not? Ask yourself this question Laura: Why do these immigrants come to America instead of Mexico? It's because of our English-speaking European roots and the culture we laid down. Our people CREATED the economic system and the technology in the first place! That proves we ourselves have the seeds of our own success. Are you implying that in order for Intel to sell chips to India, it needs to massively import Indian people to Santa Clara? How ridiculous! The Japanese do just fine selling their products around the globe without having to import the natives of the countries to which they sell. As for your assertion that immigrants create jobs, and the more jobs the better. Let's assume each high-tech immigrant creates x-number of jobs. Assume we import 200,000 of these people every year in perpetuity, with each of them creating extra jobs. At that rate, the number of jobs created will increase exponentially, to a point where NO WAY could enough Americans be found to fill them. Employers would scream 'we can't find workers!' So more H-1B's (and their large extended families) would be imported to fill the never-ending need...and within 50 or 100 years, America would have over a billion people. Our farmland would be destroyed by overpopulation, infrastructure overstressed, all cultural cohesion would be lost. But that's OK, because we created jobs. Isn't that wonderful? Sure, economics is King, and the integrity of the United States should be destroyed in its wake. My experiences -------------- I came to Silicon Valley in 1996, after college graduation. Prior to landing my first job, I interviewed with 39 different engineers at various companies in the San Jose area. 29 of them were foreign Asians...74%. On two occasions I was asked 'How would you feel about working in an asian environment' and 'We all speak chinese here. You might feel isolated.' Those questions and comments irritated me tremendously. I shouldn't have had to put up with that in my own country. Point is, these Asians have colonized the Valley to the point where it's not ability that matters so much as being of the right foreign ethnicity. And after working in the Valley for 2 years, and working with engineers from different companies (most of whom were foreign asians), I noticed that the vast majority of the foreigners were not of exceptional ability. They were ordinary. That's what happens when the numbers get too big. Experiences from others that I know: Tom K. was a former co-worker of mine in the Valley. Has over 20 yrs. of experience as a programmer and is a Carnegie Mellon mathematics grad. Yet a few years ago, Tom found himself unemployed for SEVEN months in Silicon Valley, despite going through the job search routine. Sure, all these wonderful foreigners, with their outgoing and positive attitudes towards Americans did his career well. Another fellow I know is a Stanford MSEE with many years of experience as a programmer. He programs the latest whizbang web technologies. He's gone into two separate interviews where everyone was Indian, and everyone was Chinese...needless to say, they never called him back. A cousin of mine obtained a PhD in Computer Science from Indiana Univ. After getting that degree, he searched for a post-doctoral appointment around the country. Despite his outstanding achievements, no slots were available. They had been mobbed by foreign nationals. So he had to go to Germany for two years. Shortages of American talent? I don't think so. This is all ethnic balkanization, ethnic takeover, brought on by suicidal immigration policies. The San Jose area --------------------- The place is overdone, overheated, too expensive, overpopulated, and too crowded. Doesn't it make sense that employers go ELSEWHERE to employ Americans? Why do Silicon Valley companies complain about alleged shortages when the area has the highest home prices in the country? Why would Joe American engineer working in Denver, living in a much less expensive area want to pull up stakes to move to San Jose and drastically lower his standard of living? Let the market place work and let companies spread themselves out across the country a little more. Don't corrupt this natural process by shoving huge numbers of foreigners (who often live in shared housing arrangements, contrary to traditional American practices). Also, high tech is a cyclical field. Layoffs are frequent. In Summer of 1998, I was laid off along with 41 others from my company as a result of the semiconductor downturn. Among those laid off were Americans with many years of experience and top-notch achievements. I know because we all went to an outplacement seminar the next day. In fact, American workers were predominant in the group. The H-1B�s kept their jobs at that company. Whose country is it anyway? Those H-1B workers should be temporary and should go home when layoffs occur. The last point is that just because the H-1B numbers hit their limit before the end of the year does not mean we should lift the cap. It only proves that everyone in the world wants to come here. There is also massive FRAUD in the H-1B program, as demonstrated by the labor dept., with fraudulent applications, and cooks, nannies, and other low-skill, non-high-tech people getting H-1B approvals. What needs to be done is a massive scale-down of this program, so that less than 5,000 world-class geniuses are allowed in every year...not 200,000 or more cooks, nannies and anyone else with a pulse or a degree. Laura, next time you comment on H-1B's and related issues, keep all this in mind. Lee Q. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------- Business Week, July 5, 1999 ECONOMIC VIEWPOINT Open the Gates Wide to High-Skill Immigrants LAURA D'ANDREA TYSON As the amazing expansion of the 1990s roars along, labor-market conditions continue to tighten throughout the country. The unemployment rate has been below 4.5% since November of last year, and nearly one-half of all Americans live in areas with unemployment rates below 4%. According to the Federal Reserve's most recent Beige Book, limits on labor supply are now impeding employment and output growth in an increasing number of sectors and regions. Nowhere have labor-market conditions been tighter than in the information-technology sector. Since 1993, this sector has added more than 1 million net new jobs with wages that are on average about three-quarters higher than the rest of the economy. The unemployment rates for information-technology workers, including electrical engineers, computer scientists, and programmers, are below 2%, forcing regional employers to mount national searches to fill open positions. In part, the strong demand for information-technology workers reflects the economy's overall strength. Efforts to head off Y2K problems have also intensified the search for such workers this year. But it's a mistake to conclude that the increase in demand for computer scientists, systems analysts, and computer programmers is temporary. Spending on information technologies has risen steadily since 1992 and now accounts for more than half of total business spending on producer-durable equipment. New information technologies are changing business operations from supply-chain management to human-resource management to marketing strategies. According to a recent Commerce Dept. report, the nation will require at least 1.3 million new information-technology workers over the next decade to create new systems. More will be needed to operate them. BIG JUMP. As a result of the intense scramble to hire information-technology workers, the number of H-1B visas for skilled foreign workers available for this year has already been used up. This is less than one year after passage of legislation nearly doubling that number to 115,000. The Clinton Administration initially opposed an increase in the number of H-1B visas because of concerns about possible negative effects on American workers through immigration. But a recent study by Professor Annalee Saxenian at the University of California at Berkeley for the Public Policy Institute of California indicates that immigration of information-technology workers has a positive economic impact. Drawing on a detailed analysis of Silicon Valley's experience over the past 20 years, Saxenian demonstrates that such immigrants have been a major source of new job and wealth creation, bringing skills, creativity, capital, and links with global markets to the region. Today, immigrants account for at least one-third of the scientific and engineering workforce in the Valley and occupy senior executive positions in at least one-quarter of its new technology companies. Many have advanced degrees in computer science and engineering, fields in which the number of degrees granted by U.S. universities to American students has been declining. LIFT THAT CAP. Over time, employment opportunities in information technology will stimulate more American students to acquire the necessary skills. They will be helped by the numerous educational initiatives of the Administration, including programs to upgrade basic skills in math, science, and reading in primary and secondary schools; to increase college enrollment and retention rates; and to provide retraining. State and local governments are responding to the skill demands of the new economy, often working with private companies to develop youth apprenticeship programs and specialized community-college training options. Numerous companies in the information-technology sector, such as Cisco Systems Inc. (CSCO) and Autodesk Inc. (ADSK), have introduced their own programs to attract and train students for information-technology jobs. For many programming jobs, the necessary skills can be acquired in a matter of months. For others, however, the gestation period for skills lasts years and requires substantial improvements in math and science education even before college. In the meantime, immigrants who possess the requisite skills should be allowed--indeed encouraged--to fill the gap. Conditions in the information-technology sector indicate that it's time to raise the cap on H-1B visas yet again and to provide room for further increases as warranted. Silicon Valley's experience reveals that the results will be more jobs and higher incomes for both American and immigrant workers. By: LAURA D'ANDREA TYSON ----------- end ------------------------ Help Pat and the Brigade in our Battle for the White House... Go to: http://www.gopatgo2000.org/000-v-helppat.html Spread the word -- forward this email across the USA! *********************************************** Don't Miss Out - Join the BRIGADE Email List! 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