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At 08:41 PM 8-7-1999 -0400, you wrote:
>
> Re: President Clinton's Gypsy Relations
> <snip>
>
> In the 19th century, a number of Charles Blyth's relatives
> emigrated to America and President Clinton is said to be
> descended from one of them (his mother was a Blyth).
Actually...
Virginia Cassidy Kelley was (only) married to a Blythe
-- William Jefferson Blythe III -- who may (or may not)
have been the biological father of one William Jefferson
Blythe IV -- aka 'President Bill Clinton'....
Consider the following:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999
Subj: THE MYSTERY of CLINTON's FATHER
www.samsloan.com/billsdad.htm
THE MYSTERY of CLINTON's UNKOWN FATHER
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http://www.samsloan.com/billsdad.htm
Here is some new [at least to me] material on the MYSTERY of
CLINTON's FATHER. This much we know for certain, his pedigree
is very much in dispute.
I spoke with Sherman Skolnick who indicates that there are
ABSOLUTELY no birth records whatsoever for Clinton, nor for
the first 3 years of his life. Which makes sense as you
read below. Skolnick also says that Clinton's Mom is the
illegitamate daughter of a Rockefeller, making Clinton the
illegimate grandson of the Rockefellers. Jay Rockefeller is
a legimate grandson, Clinton's legimate peer.
http://www.samsloan.com/billsdad.htm
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From: "rip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
President Clinton's Unknown Father One of the great mysteries
of our time concerns President Clinton's Unknown father. The
mystery is not only that his father is unknown. Rather, it is
that this subject is never mentioned.
William Jefferson Blythe in 1944, said to be the real father of
Bill Clinton, but he doesn't seem to look much like Bill.
There has always been talk about Clinton's "abusive step
father". However, there has never been mention of his real
biological father.
In celebration of Mother's Day, CNN News put out the following
about Clinton's father:
"President Clinton's Father was killed in a car accident
before he was born, leaving his mother, Virginia, to raise
him alone until she remarried four years after his birth."
Source: "1998 NYT Almanac"
This cryptic statement does not provide us with any real
information. The name of Clinton's father is either unknown or
has never been revealed.
The reason I find this question to be particularly interesting
is that Clinton's middle name is Jefferson. Clinton also
invokes the name of Thomas Jefferson at every opportunity.
I am really an expert on the slaves of Thomas Jefferson.
I know more about this subject than any person alive (an easy
statement to make, since all the renowned experts are now
dead.) I wrote a book on this entitled The Slave Children of
Thomas Jefferson.
Bill Clinton with his mother and younger brother, Roger.
Bill's mother, Virginia Kelley, was married five times,
twice to the same man.
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In order to write this book, I read several thousand hand
written letters by Thomas Jefferson, similar to the letter
shown here. I have been able to establish that there are more
than one thousand living descendants of Thomas Jefferson by his
slaves, some of whom are now considered white, whereas others
are considered black.
The question is: Is William Jefferson Clinton one of the Slave
Children of Thomas Jefferson?
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UPDATE: I have received an e-mail stating that Bill Clinton's
original name was William Jefferson Blythe, IV and that
Clinton's father was William Jefferson Blythe III who was the
son of William Jefferson Blythe II. It gives as the source:
Ancestors of American Presidents by Gary Boyd Roberts.
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UPDATE: A reader writes: "I co-authored "BLYTHE, Vol.1" in 1994
with Pat Hicks Brigance, of Maryville, Tennessee. We included a
chapter on the family of President Clinton. He descends from
ANDREW JACKSON BLYTHE and his wife JANE BLYTHE. ANDREW J.
BLYTHE and JANE had a son named THOMAS JEFFERSON BLYTHE, which
is the child that President Clinton is descended from. I have a
great deal of information regarding this family that Pat and I
have collected since 1994.
"You may reach me at the following e-mail addresses:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] OR AT [EMAIL PROTECTED] "
Rev. Jerry Olinger
Donna (nee BLYTHE) Olinger
1205 Crater Avenue
Modesto, CA 95351-7311
1 (209) 529-2447
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FURTHER UPDATE:
Dear Mr. Sloan:
It's odd that you make so much of not knowing bill Clinton's
father's name since it has been public knowledge for quite
a long time. Look in any New York Times or "People"-style
magazine that came out during one of his presidential elections
and you will find numerous stories about his family and
genealogy. His father, as you eventually discovered was William
Jefferson Blythe (known as "WJ"). There were a long line of
people on his side of the family with similar names starting
with a Thomas Jefferson Blythe born back in 1829. If there's
anything else you want to know, I'm sure any of the family
genealogists who post their studies on the internet would be
glad to help you out. However, it sounds like truth is not
exactly what you are looking for.
Thomas Jefferson
President Clinton's Putative Great-Great-Grandfather?
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Rev. Stan Blythe Duncan ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
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ANOTHER UPDATE: A reader writes: Chris Ruddy is reporting in
his magazine that Blythe was NOT in the country 9 months prior
to Bill's birth and ONLY returned 6 MONTHS PRIOR to his birth.
Virginia was asked about this and her response was
Clintonesque: 'I pushed hard for an early labor'.
Chris Ruddy's magazine is Vortex - vol.1 no.1 p.4, Internet
Vortex, PO Box 20989, West Palm Beach, FL 33416 - 561-835-6999.
It also appears that you can reach them at: 1-800-newsmax.
The information was obtained from D. Maraniss' book titled
"First in His Class : The Biography of Bill Clinton". Nine
months before Clinton was born, Blythe was serving with the
Army in Italy. Blythe only returned to the states some 6 months
before the birth. After pub of his book, Maraniss was contacted
by a Louisiana family who claim one of their male relations had
a love affair with a young Virginia Cassidy at the time Clinton
was conceived.
The Louisiana family knew too many details about Virginia to
have made up the story.
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A reader writes: This is from the article from London Times for
1/5/99 by Damian Whitworth: (excerpt from article) Virginia,
Bill's mother, said that Bill was born prematurely after she
suffered a fall. But when Vanity Fair tracked down the midwife,
she denied he was born prematurely. "Not at that weight.
I remember he was a nice size baby, between eight and nine
pounds". (end of excerpt). (My note - this would appear to be
yet more evidence that Blythe was not the father of Bill). In
the Vortex article (previous email), it indicates that Tyrrell
("Boy Clinton") theorizes that "one of Virginia's family or
friends at the county morgue found (Blythe who had died
recently) and "married" (Virginia) to Blythe". FYI.
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http://www.samsloan.com/billsdad.htm
Here are links:
a.. Clinton's Real Father Discovered in Hope, Arkansas
b.. CNN News Mother's Day Special
c.. President Clinton Exhibit from his home town -
Photographs Of President Clinton And His Family
d.. There was a Slave named Blythe!
e.. President Clinton's Black Baby?
f.. President Clinton Contemplates an Elephant
g.. The Slave Children of Thomas Jefferson
h.. DNA Evidence Proves that Thomas Jefferson fathered at
least one child by Sally Hemings
i.. DNA Tests Offer Evidence That Jefferson Fathered a
Child With His Slave
j.. "Defenders" of Thomas Jefferson continue to insist that
he could not have fathered children by his slaves
k.. Historian Renews Criticism of DNA in Jefferson-Hemings
l.. Critics Question D-N-A Link Between Jefferson and
Slave's Descendants
m.. Why "Jefferson Scholars" Were the Last to Know
n.. The Washington Post: Tests Link Jefferson, Slave's Son
o.. Order Now: The Slave Children of Thomas Jefferson -
Just Out
p.. Order "The Slave Children of Thomas Jefferson" from
Amazon Books
q.. Order "The Slave Children of Thomas Jefferson" from
Barnes and Noble
r.. Order the Video of Clinton's Testimony
Return to my Home Page
http://www.samsloan.com/billsdad.htm
Contact address - please send e-mail to the following address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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MORE from SKOLNICK on Clinton:
It should be noted that Virginia Clinton's father was at the
time the Governor of Arkansas, none other than Winthrop
Rockefeller. More on Skolnicks's report below this information.
Clinton also claims to be a supporter of Blacks when his mentor
was the Segregationalist Fulbright.
Also Raymond Clinton, Bills's supposed Uncle was an Auto Dealer
and a Grand Wizard in the KKK. So much for being a supporter
of Blacks as the myth goes. Raymond got Bill started in
politics. Arkansas to this day is one of the most bigoted
states in America. So much for Clinton's claims to be a
supporter of blacks.
Sharon Percy Rockerfeller has bin laden ties. Bin Laden's
brother is a top guy in Motorola's Project Iridium.
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Here is the source I found from help of a friend on the Clinton
Rockefeller blood link. It purports that Clinton (birth name
Blythe) is the illegitimate Grandson of the Rockefellers..
As usual if you can refute or support this please proceed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 8 Num. 42
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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BILL CLINTON AND THE ROCKEFELLERS
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By Sherman H. Skolnick
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There are big, dirty secrets that may explain the rise to power
of those otherwise obscure. A case in point is William Jefferson
Clinton. Some background:
Seldom mentioned, although known: that the Rockefellers own and
operate Arkansas, a very poor, backward state that is quite
sizeable with a comparatively small population. Several terms
before Bill Clinton held that position, Winthrop Rockefeller was
Arkansas Governor; Winthrop being the grandson of John Davison
Rockefeller, founder of what some call the evil empire of
Standard Oil.
By U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 1910, based on Rockefeller's
corrupt and violent monopoly practices, the Standard Oil Trust
was broken into various parts. Although the names of the
resulting parts have been changed around to confuse naive people,
the Rockefellers still control them all, such as Standard Oil of
New Jersey, now called Exxon; Standard Oil of Indiana, now called
Amoco, and Standard Oil of Ohio, now merged with interests of the
British royal family and called British Petroleum; and so on.
The person now known as Bill Clinton: his maternal grandmother,
believed to be quite a beauty, and reportedly having some link to
British royalty, had a great love affair with Winthrop
Rockefeller. Hence, Bill Clinton is apparently the illegitimate
great grandson of old John D. Rockefeller. Another great
grandson is John D. Rockefeller IV, called Jay, to be cute. Is
Jay a secret power co-conspirator with Bill Clinton or a rival
for occupying the White House?
Up to now, Bill Clinton's background, as portrayed by the
Rockefeller-controlled monopoly press, is apparently just another
fairy tale of a kid from a nothing place, Hope, Arkansas, somehow
rising to high position by great effort and merit. A recent book
points out that Bill Clinton was moreso linked with Hot Springs,
Arkansas, and was dominated by his uncle Raymond Clinton. The
uncle was a wealthy and influential so-called "auto dealer" (some
contend that sometimes is the title or role of the local or
regional bagman) with ties to the Ku Klux Klan and organized
crime. Along with other figures from the vice-ridden,
mob-controlled Hot Springs of the 1940s and 1950s, Uncle Raymond
financed Bill Clinton's first campaigns. (See: "Partners in
Power, The Clintons and Their America" by Roger Morris.)
Other reputed patrons of Bill Clinton reportedly include the
Jacobs family of Buffalo, New York (who also reportedly
contributed to the rise to high position in sports of O.J.
Simpson). They control concessions at sports stadia around the
nation, through their operations, once called Emprise, and later,
Sportsystems, Inc. Some contended the international sports
concession firm had underworld ties.
(See, for example: Chicago Sun-Times, 6/6/72; 1/16/72; 11/28/72.
Later, Jeremy Jacobs, president of Sportsystems, Inc., testified
that the firm has been "rehabilitated", Chicago Tribune, 3/4/75.
In 1972, Emprise Corp., a Sportsystem subsidiary, was convicted
in California Federal Court of making a series of loans to Las
Vegas gamblers with crime syndicate connections. Chicago
Tribune, 3/4/75.)
The Jacobs family runs dog racing, popular in Arkansas. They
also have owned Marine Midland Bank, originally headquartered in
Buffalo, and now have units nation-wide, and around the world by
having merged with Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank. The Hong Kong
Bank financed the opium trade going back to the 19th Century
Opium Wars, the British method of subjugating China. That Bank
has been owned and operated by British royalty and is interlinked
with British shipping firms in the Pacific rim. Also, some in
law enforcement have accused the Marine Midland Bank of being
reportedly a dope money laundry.
Clinton, as Governor, played a role with the aluminum cartel,
since Arkansas at the time he was Governor produced about 90
percent of the nation's supply of bauxite for aluminum. (The
cartel run by the ultra-rich Mellon family of Pittsburgh.)
Bill Clinton reportedly was enlisted in intelligence and covert
operations, at an early age, by Miles Copeland, London Station
Chief for the American CIA. This while Clinton was at Oxford as
a Rhodes Scholar. Who bothers to point out that CIA is
interlocked with the oil companies -- like Rockefeller's -- with
CIA being a form of international security police for oil
facilities. And who bothers to remember that the Cecil Rhodes
Trust is based on South African diamond mine monopolies and that
the Trust and its "scholars" are pledged to restore control to
the British of their former colonies now called the United
States. (Arkansas apparently has the only diamond mines in the
U.S. A mere coincidence?)
Other moneybaggers behind Clinton include Stephens & Co., which
have had a Rockefeller on their board. They are the largest bond
house outside of Wall Street, and headquartered in Little Rock
with units worldwide. And they are interwoven with the Rose Law
Firm. And Rose Law Firm partners Hillary Rodham Clinton and
Vincent W. Foster, Jr. reportedly arranged the efforts of a
twin-bank empire to spread out in the United States, as reputed
money laundries: Bank of Credit and Commerce International
(BCCI) and Banca Nazionale Delavoro (BNL), Italy's largest bank
owned in part by the Vatican.
BNL-Atlanta disguised some 5 billion dollars of weapons shipments
to Iraq from U.S. firms, disguised as Agriculture Department
credits -- weapons shipments primarily from Arkansas-based firms
linked to George Bush and in some way with the Rockefellers, and
on which Hillary was a board director or her role disguised as
their "lawyer".
One only becomes Arkansas Governor with the blessings and
approval of the Rockefellers. Because of secretly being part of
the Rockefeller family, Bill Clinton considers himself to be a
Teflon Man; no scandal can stick to him.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a369223bf49aa.htm
Midwife who delivered Clinton adds fuel
to row over his birth
The Times (London)
1/5/99 DAMIAN WHITWORTH
Midwife who delivered Clinton adds fuel to row over his birth
BY DAMIAN WHITWORTH THE mystery over the identity of President
Clinton's father took a new twist yesterday after Wilma Booker,
the midwife who delivered him, contradicted his free-spirited
mother's account of his birth. Mr Clinton was brought up to
believe he was sired by Bill Blythe, an accused bigamist killed
in a car accident two months before the President was born.
But David Maraniss, Mr Clinton's biographer, learnt of whispers
about his parentage because, nine months earlier, Blythe had
still been in the Army in Italy. The author was contacted by
the family of a man who appeared to have had an affair with
Virginia, President Clinton's mother, at the time of his
conception. She dismissed the gossip by saying that Bill was
born prematurely after she had suffered a fall. But when
Vanity Fair tracked down the midwife, she denied he was born
prematurely. "Not at that weight. I remember he was a nice
size baby, between eight and nine pounds."
Copyright 1999 Times Newspapers Ltd.
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To: BRAllen
Addressed Bill's paternity a couple of days ago. According to
Roger Morris Partners in Power, Bill Blythe discharged from
Army Dec. '45, Bill Clinton born Aug. '46. That's nine months
and not unreasonable that when Bill Blythe return to wife
Virginia, they conceive baby. Roger Morris, pre-eminent
Clinton scholar, doesn't question Bill Blythe paternity.
Look in Chpt.1 of Partners in Power.
Wedding ceremony for Bill and Virginia Blythe Sept. '43,
bigamous because Blythe's second divorce not final until 1944.
But agree with pior poster, irrelevant and not Bill Clinton's
fault anyway. Admit I'd take pleasure in it if Bill a bastard
in fact, because he's a bastard in spirit, but recognize that
feeling as a personal failing.
Enjoy your posts BRAllen.
From: MUDDOG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * 01/05/99 06:10:13 PST
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http://www.nydailynews.com/1998-10-01/News_and_Views/
Daily_Dish/a-6642.asp
NY Daily News Online Edition
From: News and Views - Daily Dish
Thursday, October 01, 1998
Bubba Might've Been Bayou Baby: Author
A new book is raising questions about the true
identity of President Clinton's father.
In "The Clinton Enigma," Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist
David Maraniss sifts reports that Clinton may have been
conceived during an alleged extramarital affair that his
mother, Virginia, conducted with a Louisiana man.
Maraniss writes that, after the publication of his 1995
Clinton biography, "First In His Class," he "began receiving
inquiries" from the family of a deceased Louisiana man.
The family told Maraniss the man had once "dated" a woman
named Virginia Cassidy, the maiden name of Clinton's mother.
Maraniss reports that this woman supposedly was from Hope,
Ark., and was a graduate of the nursing program at Tri-State
Hospital in Shreveport, La. -- just like Clinton's mother.
The dating was said to have taken place in 1945, when
Virginia's husband, William Blythe, was stationed in Italy
with the Army.
Maraniss tells us that he found the Louisiana family's story
specific enough in its details that "I didn't think it was
a fraud."
Maraniss writes that "my reporting on [the Louisiana
family's] claim has been inconclusive. I remain an agnostic
on the question of Clinton's paternity; the evidence is
unclear as to his biological father: Blythe, the Louisiana
man, or someone else."
"For years," Maraniss continues, "there were whispers in
Hope about who little Billy's father was, rumors spawned by
Virginia's flirtatious nature as a young nurse and the
inevitable temptation of people to count backward nine
months from the birth date to see who was where doing what.
"Nine months before Aug. 19, 1946, Blythe was still in
Italy. Virginia heard the talk. Her answer was that Billy
... was born a month early, induced weeks ahead of schedule
because she had taken a fall and the doctor was concerned
about her condition."
The author tells us that Clinton neighbors in Hope have
mentioned other men as possible fathers, "but I have no
hard evidence."
A White House spokesman had no comment on the speculation.
Maraniss says that he brings this ancient history up to show
how it impacts on Clinton's secret-keeping during the Monica
Lewinsky mess.
"It's a touchy subject," says The Washington Post reporter.
"I was trying to deal with it responsibly."
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