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In a message dated 99-08-13 13:12:38 EDT, you write:

<<  Supporters of theocracy, having lost the intellectual debate over
 > creationism vs. evolution, exploit the political system in their
 > attempt to promulgate their views and wrest power from rational
 > folk.

I am not a believer of a God, nor do I believe that my ancestors were
monkeys, maybe yours were, but not mine.  So, you think that science wins by
default, that their monkey theory is any better than the God created it all
theory?  I think not.  If the scientific theory is correct, how do you
explain how that first ameoba was created to produce the universe, and if the
"big bang" theory is correct, where did the material from the big bang come
from?  Evolution is taught in schools because the socialist-nazi types are in
control and they do not want anyone to believe in an authority that is more
powerful than themselves ... they see this as a barrier to having complete
control, guns are also a barrier to control.

 > Of course, science needn't 'prove' anything - science deals
 > with parsimonious workable explanations, not proof - but theocratic/
 > creationist demagogues frame their arguments in terms of 'proof',
 > and misconstrue the meaning of 'theory', and engage in any other
 > sophistry sufficient to manipulate political bodies.

Seems to me you have this a little backwards.  The scientific types want
everyone to accept their theory as fact, when, in reality, it is no more fact
than creationism.  If as you say the "creationist demagogues" are engaging in
sophisticated disinformation to sway the beliefs of political bodies, then
why is it that prayers are not allowed in schools, the killing of another
human being is allowed (abortion), and they (government) champions the
"rights" of homosexuals, pedofiles and the "rights" of convicted criminals
rather than the lack of rights of their victims?  Seems to me the
"Scientists" gain ground on a regular basis through the use of force and
massive disinformation, for they are in control.

 > The struggle isn't about proof, evidence, fairness - it's about
 > power, nothing else.  Cretinists are in a can't-win position,
 > since their 'success' in controlling a region's school system
 > will translate into the marginalization of graduates of those
 > schools when they emerge into the real world of higher education
 > and meaningful employment.

Cretinists?  You, who espouses the "implant theory?"  Contol ... Hmmm!
Interesting that when one State is allowed to vary their school subjects,
then they are controlling ... what of the other 49 States who control a
subject opposite to the one State ... just who do you think is doing the
controlling?  It is maginalization to teach that our ancestors were not
monkeys?  You could be correct, seems to me that most officials in government
(their intelligence anyway) resemble monkeys rather than man.  Does this mean
if you are a Christian, Moslem, Jew, Buddist, etc. that you cannot obtain
meaningful employment or higher education?

This is highly unusual to have a serious discussion on  the sceptichats list
rather than jokes about implants.

Didn't mean to rant a little, but a had a few minutes to spare before work.

Bob Stokes


 Like Marxism, cretinism can't survive
 > contact with reality-based systems, but thrives only in isolation,
 > behind ideological walls.  Yow.
  >>

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