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----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Tatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Ric Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Bruce Mcneely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >Seriously, evolution cannot be proven, the Bible thumper theory
> > > >cannot be proven ... why not teach both and let the student decide
> > > >which one he/she believes, or is there a third theory on the origin
> > > >of humans ...
> > >
> > > There is one small problem with this idea - the evidence. I say teach
> > > evolution and special creation in  proportion to their respective
> > > supporting evidence. The time alloted for special creation should be
> > > about one nanosecond.
> >
> > Supporters of theocracy, having lost the intellectual debate over
> > creationism vs. evolution, exploit the political system in their
> > attempt to promulgate their views and wrest power from rational
> > folk.  Of course, science needn't 'prove' anything - science deals
> > with parsimonious workable explanations, not proof - but theocratic/
> > creationist demagogues frame their arguments in terms of 'proof',
> > and misconstrue the meaning of 'theory', and engage in any other
> > sophistry sufficient to manipulate political bodies.
> >
> Somewhere Christopher Hitchens says that the problem with creation
> science is that while it asks valid questions (and it does pay to be
> as skeptical of evolution as of any other dogma), it provides the
> answers as predetermined proven <...> on Sunday I have an orgy of
> solipsism... After all, you *can't* prove that I didn't dream
> up the whole shebang ten minutes ago, now can you? Can you?

But proof is irrelevant, except at the bar [either type], in math/
logic, and in printmaking.  When cretinists demand proof, they're
twisting the debate, trying to disguise their lack of parsimonious,
workable explanations supported by the preponderance of data.

Are you the Creator? If you are, but the universe apparently operates
as though you aren't, then you're irrelevant.  And no, it can't be
'proved' that you AREN'T the Creator - as we usta say on the FidoNet
Philosophy echo: Only a moron tries to prove a negative.  So anyone
trying to prove that you aren't divine is either a moron or a lawyer.
But anyway, in my spiritual role, I proclaimed all living entities
in the universe to be deities - so you ARE a god.  Use it wisely.

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