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Lo-ta'aneh vere'acha ed shaker.
Exodus 20:13
(Do not testify as a false witness against your neighbor.)
Response to anti-Semites' posting of Talmud "Quotes"
and other anti-Semitic fabrications and distortions
Author: David S. Maddison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project started: 1998CE/07/29
This site started 1999CE/03/15
Much of anti-Semitism appears to have its origins in the supposed belief
that Jews must intrinsically hate Christianity and humanity in general.
Of course, this is not true, but it does not stop the production of vast
amounts of anti-Semitic propaganda to this effect. This belief is often
combined with the idea that Jews are somehow not human, but must have
access to various subterfuges or even magic to give, at least, the
appearance of being human and thus be able to "infiltrate" and "corrupt"
normal society. Indeed, many societies have blamed "the Jews" for all
their problems. It follows from these beliefs that Jews must therefore
be exterminated in order for society to function normally, and sadly,
this has been tried on more than one occasion. The types of fears and
misconceptions at work in these cases are among the most ancient and
primordial in existence. Perhaps if those that blamed "the Jews" for
their problems had the same devotion to education, learning and personal
advancement that Jews typically do, they wouldn't have whatever problems
they are blaming Jews for.
This is a project to provide responses to the anti-Semites who post
alleged quotes from the Talmud and other anti-Jewish propaganda in a way
intended to promote hatred of Jews. These "Talmud quotes" and other
material are either entire fabrications, mistranslations or out of
context. This is a sample of the first small completed section. If you
have any comments I would be happy to hear them. I would like to thank
all the people who have contributed answers. Each contribution includes
the author's name or initials. I would also like to thank Frances for
starting this site and for ongoing support. There are also several other
documents that I am working on. Most of the "Talmud quotes" come from
the Russian anti-Semite Rev. I. B. Pranaitis, who had a criminal record
and was "Master of Theology and Professor of the Hebrew Language at the
Imperial Ecclesiastical Academy of the Roman Catholic Church" in Old St.
Petersburg, Russia. He wrote this material around the turn of the
century in a booklet in Latin with the English title of "The Talmud
Unmasked". He was a self-identified Talmudic "scholar" who testified at
the B. Mendel Beilis "Blood Libel" case and was laughed out of court
when asked some very basic questions on the Talmud which he couldn't
answer. Nevertheless, his legacy survives and it is about time there was
a response to it. So here is the first part.
Note: This site will not attempt to deal with Holocaust denial. For
those requiring proof that the Holocaust did occur, please visit
http://www.nizkor.org or http://www.holocaust-history.org
David S. Maddison
Response to:
"Why Jews are Persecuted - Some Insight from Jewish Writings"
"The Code of the Jews - From the Talmud"
"Why jews Are Persecuted For Their Religion - The Truth Is Stranger Than
Fiction!"
Response to: The "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"
Response to:
Aren't a majority of modern Jews descended from the Khazars?
If so, Jews should have no claim on Israel.
Some true quotes from the Talmud by Michael Gruda
A response to "THE TALMUD: JUDAISM'S HOLIEST BOOK DOCUMENTED AND
EXPOSED"
(In two parts.)
A brief chronology of anti-Semitism
Who was "Reverend" Pranaitis and what did he do?
The supposed quote of Rabbi Wise purporting that Communism=Judaism
The supposed quotes of Washington, Franklin, Jefferson and others
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Response to:
"Why Jews are Persecuted - Some Insight from Jewish Writings"
"The Code of the Jews - From the Talmud"
"Why jews Are Persecuted For Their Religion - The Truth Is Stranger Than
Fiction!"
Examples of this document on line are at:
English language:
http://www.posse-comitatus.org/jewper.html
Non-English language:
http://www.nidlink.com/~aryanvic/jewper-SW.html>(Aryan Nations, Sweden)
CLAIM
"We beg Thee, O Lord, inflict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in
Thee. Take away, O Lord all hope from them. Destroy all foes of Thy
nation."--Synagoga Judaica, p. 212. Minhagen, p. 23. Crach Chaim, 480
Hagah
RESPONSE
This is stated in the Haggada of Passover, it is the passage beginning
with "Shefoch Chamatcha". After what the gentiles have done to the Jews
through the ages I see no wrong at all in praying to G-d to destroy our
assailants. The prayer is not against gentiles in general only against
the bloodthirsty barbarous anti-Semites as the prayer carries on the say
"because they have destroyed Jacob (the people of Israel) and demolished
your sanctuary". This end is of course deliberately excluded from the
text they copied for this reason. E.S.
CLAIM
"The teachings of the Talmud stand above all other laws. They are more
important than the laws of Moses."- Rabbi Ismael, Rabbi Chambar, et. al.
RESPONSE
The passage as quoted is clearly spurious. Rabbi Ishmael lived far too
early to be saying anything about the Talmud (which was not compiled
until centuries afterwards), and there is nobody with a name that sounds
remotely like Rabbi "Chambar."
There are some statements that speak of the teachings of the sages as
being "more beloved" before God than those of the Torah (because of
their human component), or requiring more strengthening (i.e.,
additional stringencies lest people treat them lightly). I am not aware
of any statement that formulates it as in the passage. From Usenet
message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CLAIM
"The decisions of the Talmud are the words of the living God. Jehovah
Himself asks the opinion of the earthly rabbis when there are difficult
affairs in heaven." - Rabbi Menachem Commentary on Fifth Book
RESPONSE
Although the sources quoted do not exist it is because of the ignorance
of the one who copied it, but the general idea is correct. The Talmud
and commentaries state many times that both sides of a dispute between
Talmudic sages are actually true they are just stating the two ways of
logic reasoning while both concepts originate from G-d's divine wisdom.
That is why so to speak G-d learns the Talmud, it means to say he is the
source of all the Talmudic reasoning, and he "states" the laws in name
of the sages who projected the divine logic of each opinion. By the way
the sources quoted are definitely forged as name "Jehova" is never
mentioned in any novellae apart from the scriptures as it is strictly
forbidden to utter it at all. E.S./edited D.S.M.
CLAIM
"Jehovah Himself studies the Talmud standing, he has such respect for
that book."-Tract Mechilla.
RESPONSE
There is no tractate called Mechila and there seems to be no mentioning
of G-d studying the Talmud standing. In general whenever you see the
word "Jehovah" in a cite it is the best proof it is forged as this name
is never ever mentioned in the Talmud or Poskim as it is strictly
prohibited to pronounce it. E.S.
CLAIM
"It is more wicked to question the words of the rabbis than that of the
Torah."- Michna Sanhedryn 11:3.
RESPONSE
This severity is not relating to all aspects as we see by the punishment
given to those who transgress Torah laws is by far more strict. However,
as the sages had to enforce their decrees, usually for the benefit of
public safety, in a way, one who transgresses these decrees is
undermining the words of the sages and violating the whole concept of
communal adherence, which will effect public security which is the
regular reason for Rabbinical decrees.
CLAIM
"It is forbidden to disclose the secrets of the law. He who would do it
would be as guilty as though he destroyed the whole world." - Jektut
Chadasz, 171, 3.
RESPONSE
I see nothing wrong with this statement although the source again does
not make sense. On the contrary, look at this anti-Semite he is
misunderstanding the Jewish sources and using them as a warrant for
genocide.
The laws of the Torah were given to the Jews, we are proud of our
heritage and do not wish anyone to learn it. It is not true that anyone
transgressing this prohibition is to be punished (it does not say so
anywhere). Until 35 years ago Chinese martial arts were kept by the
Masters as a secret, they would not teach it to a white man, what is
wrong with this? I wonder if they condemn them also for it? (They are
most probably scared.) E.S.
CLAIM
"Every goy who studies the Talmud and every Jew who who helps him in it,
ought to die." - Sanhedryn, 59a, Aboda Zora 8-6, Szagiga
RESPONSE
The quote from Sanhedrin does say that a gentile may not study torah but
the other sources do not exist. There is no practical death penalty for
this offense the penalty stated is only a term of speech stated in order
to indicate the severity of the sin. A gentile may study the laws
regarding the 7 Noahide commandments as stated ibid. and he will merit
great everlasting bliss for this, however he may not study the laws of
Judaism. The basic reason for prohibiting the study of Torah is because
it is a special covenant between G-d and his chosen people, any one who
is not affiliated with the chosen people is regarded a thief. Rashi
ibid. E.S.
CLAIM
"To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be
equal to the killing of all Jews, for if they knew what we teach about
them they would kill us openly." - Libbre David 37.
RESPONSE
Total balderdash, there is no such statement at all, and there is no
such book. E.S.
CLAIM
"If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he
ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order
shall be put to death." Libbre David 37.
RESPONSE
As explained above, there is no such book.
CLAIM
"A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our
books contain anything against them."-Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of
Jore Dia 17.
RESPONSE
This is a forgery. The word "Sehelot Uteshubot" means Talmudic responsa,
there is no such book at all. Besides, there is nothing in the Torah
which may cause disturbance to a gentile. What can have been written is
that one may take an oath that there is nothing against gentiles in
Jewish law as it is a true oath. E.S.
CLAIM
"The Jews are human beings , but the nations of the world are not human
beings but beasts."-Baba Mecia 114, 6 [i.e.: 114b].
RESPONSE
Apparently a deliberate mistranslation. The passage deals with the
technical rules of corpse-impurity which, according to the author of
this text, apply to Jews and not to gentiles. In this connection Ezekiel
34:31 is cited: "And ye My sheep [referring to Israel], the sheep of My
pasture, are _men [Hebrew: "adam"]_, and I am your God, saith the Lord
God." From a careful midrashic reading of this Biblical verse, Rabbi
Simeon ben Yohai deduced "Only "ye" [i.e., Israel, not other nations]
are designated "adam," in the sense that only Jewish corpses and graves
generate impurity according to Numbers 19:14: "This is the law: when a
_man ['adam']_ dieth in a tent, every one that cometh into the
tent...shall be unclean seven days..." The passage is legal and
exegetical, not theological. If anything, it seems to put Jews on a
lower footing than non-Jews. Typically, the words "but beasts" were
added on by whoever put this list together. They do not appear in the
original. From Usenet message: catamont-2305980759150001@ts00
3d13.den-co.concentric.net
CLAIM
"When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves." - Simeon
Haddarsen, fol. 56-D.
RESPONSE
There is no such source. However, we find a talmudic statement relating
to the spiritual afterlife allegorically that there will be no need for
toil in the spiritual world, as one who has a large amount of slaves
does not need to toil, thus so to speak angels will execute our errands.
Another Talmudic statement which might have incited the ignoramus is
that in the messianic times every Jew will have 2800 disciples from
among the nations who will wish to learn from him the ways of the Torah.
E.S.
CLAIM
"Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not
have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in
human form, and commanded to serve the Jew day and night." - Midrasch
Talpioth, p225-L.
RESPONSE
I was unable to check this reference in my extensive Judaica library.
The book "Midrash Talpiyyot" is appparently an obscure
eighteenth-century Kabbalistic work that is little known and carries no
authority whatsoever. Even if the citation were correct (which seems
doubtful in light of the other examples on this list, and the fact that
Jews never employ the designation "Jehovah"), it is hard to imagine what
could be proven from it about Judaism or the Talmud. From Usenet message
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CLAIM
As soon as the King Messiah will declare himself, He will destroy Rome
and make a wilderness of it. Thorns and weeds will grow in the Pope's
palace.
Then He will start a merciless war on non-Jews and will overpower them.
He will slay them in masses, kill their kings and lay waste the whole
Roman land. He will say to the Jews: 'I am the King Messiah for whom you
have been waiting. Take the Silver and Gold from the Goyim.'" - Josiah
60, 6 Rabbi Abarbanel to Daniel 7, 13.
RESPONSE
The Abarbanel (circa 1440 - 1510) does not relate to Rome rather than to
the oppressors of the Jewish nation who will wish to conduct a genocide
before the revelation of the Messiah. E.S.
CLAIM
"A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."- Aboda Sarah
37a.
RESPONSE
Apparently a deliberate misquote. The observation is a technical,
physiological one, regarding the impurities related to genital "flows"
as outlined in Leviticus chapter 15. The Talmudic source argues that
since the tearing of the hymen at that age would be permanent (as
distinct from a younger girl whose hymen the rabbis believed would grow
back), she is considered to have reached a state of physical development
that her discharges would be included under the category of impure flows
according to the Biblical purity laws. (The same rule, by the way, would
apply to a Jewish girl). This is of course not a permission to "violate"
the girl, merely a legal definition of her age. From Usenet message
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CLAIM
"A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl." - Gad. Shas. 2:2.
RESPONSE
No such source at all, on the contrary any sexual contact with a gentile
woman is strictly prohibited even without marriage, see Talmud Sanhedrin
82a and Avoda Zarah 36b E.S.
CLAIM
"A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he
treats a piece of meat." - Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan Aruch, Choszen
Hamiszpat 348.
RESPONSE
This is of course poppycock, there is no such source called Hadarine,
while the chapter in Choshen Mishpat 348:2 states clearly that one may
not steal from a gentile exactly as one may not steal from a fellow Jew.
E.S.
CLAIM
"A Jew may misuse the non-Jewess in her state of unbelief." -
Maimonides, Jak. Chasaka 2:2.
RESPONSE
This too is a lie, there is no book in the Rambam called Jak. and the
word Chazaka - legal claim - has nothing to do with this
CLAIM
"If a goy kills a goy or a Jew he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a
goy he is not responsible." - Tosefta. Aboda Zara 8, 5.
RESPONSE
The Tosefta relates to the death penalty carried out by a gentile court,
when the murderer is a Jew he has to be killed by a Jewish court.
Besides, the usual famous answer to this question is that all this
relates to the ancient pagan worshipers and not to present day gentiles.
E.S.
CLAIM
"It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is
permitted to kill him even before he denounces."- Schulchan Aruch,
Choszen Hamiszpat 388.
RESPONSE
What on earth is wrong with this? A denunciator is one who will cause a
fellow Jew harm that he does not deserve. The gentiles have already
forgotten but less that a century ago if a Jew was caught breaking a
trivial law it would caused an atrocity and/or massacre throughout the
country, this is the reason for the prohibition of denouncing. Besides
this law is not accepted practically see Remah ibid 10. E.S.
CLAIM
"Thou shalt not do injury to thy neighbor (Bible), but it is not said,
'Thou shalt not do injury to a goy.' " - Mishna Sanhedryn 57.
RESPONSE
This is a lie, one may not injure a gentile, there is not such verse in
the Bible and no such statement in the Talmud or Mishna. (There is no
Mishna in (There is no Mishna in Sanhedrin 57.)
CLAIM
"When you go to war do not go as the first, but as the last, so that you
may return as the first. Five things has Kanaan recommended to his sons:
'Love each other, love the robbery, hate your masters and never tell the
truth.' " - Pesachim F. 113B
RESPONSE
This has nothing to do with Jews, Kanaan was a gentile he was the son of
Noah, these are truly the ways of the anti-Semitic gentiles as we can
perceive in history. E.S.
CLAIM
"A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself; but he must take
care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer." -
Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia.
RESPONSE
This too is a lie, there is no such statement and no such source. E.S.
CLAIM
"A Jew may rob a goy-that is, he may cheat him in a bill, if unlikely to
be perceived by him." - Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348.
RESPONSE
This law regards something which according to Jewish law is considered
cheating but is permitted according to gentile law. A Jew does not have
to act towards a gentile in a different way than the gentile legislature
requires from him. Besides, practically the ruling is to prohibit this
too. E.S.
CLAIM
"If a goy wants a Jew to stand witness against a Jew in a court of law,
and if the Jew could give fair evidence, he is forbidden to do it; but
if a Jew wants a Jew to be a witness in a similar case against a goy, he
may do it." - Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 28, Art. 3 and 4
RESPONSE
This law was also wrongly understood. According to Jewish law one may
not charge a person to pay money in a law court because of the testimony
of one witness, but two witnesses are needed. So the Shulchan Aruch
states that in a place were the gentile legislature will charge someone
to pay because of the testimony of one witness, a Jew may not go and be
the witness to charge a fellow Jew as two witnesses are needed. But to
charge a gentile he is permitted to attend the court as we are dealing
with a scenario were gentiles agree to the concept of accepting one
witness alone. E.S.
CLAIM
"Those who do not confess the Torah and the Prophets must be killed. Who
has the power to kill them, let them kill them openly with the sword. If
not, let them use artifices, till they are done away with." - Schulchan
Aruch. Choszen Hamiszapt 425.5.
RESPONSE
This law applies to killing Jewish heretics, the following line in this
passage is that this law does not apply to anyone non Jewish and it is
forbidden to harm any gentile, on no account at all. The Jewish heretics
ibid. are only people which are a potential cause of harm and trouble to
the nation. E.S.
CLAIM
"All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which,
consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An
orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards
people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable
to himself or to Jews in general." - Schulchan Aruch. Choszen Hamiszpat
348.
RESPONSE
This is a famous lie. On the contrary, in the source cited the only
article dealing with gentiles is #2 which states clearly that there is
no difference between the prohibition of stealing from a Jew or from a
non-Jew, both are strictly prohibited. E.S.
CLAIM
"Should a Jew inform the goyish authorities that another Jew has much
money, and the other will suffer a loss through it, he must give him
remuneration." - Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388.
RESPONSE
The Halacha [Jewish Law -DSM] is dealing with envious gentile tyrants
who always loved stealing Jewish money and used to find pretexts for
leveling new taxes on certain rich Jews. In such a case if a fellow Jew
went and notified the "authorities" about someone that he is rich, and
consequently this rich person was wronged by the tyrant he will have to
pay his losses. E.S.
CLAIM
"How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob,
or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or a Jew. But a Jew is not
forbidden to do all this to a goy."- Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5.
RESPONSE
This Tosefta is dealing with the laws which have to be enforced by
gentile law courts according to the Noahide law. It only says that a Jew
has can't be judged and punished by a gentile court but by a Jewish
court even though his offense was against a gentile. E.S.
[The Tosefot comprise of commentary on the Talmud made by various Rabbis
after the completion of the Talmud and after the time of Rashi.
"Tosefot" simply means "additions" or "supplements". The Tosefot use the
same methods of dialectical debate and style as does the Talmud. David
S. Maddison
CLAIM
"On the house of the goy one looks as on the fold of cattle." - Tosefta,
Erubin VII, 1.
RESPONSE
The true source is ibid. V 15. An Eiruv is a imaginary wall set by a
certain procedure, permitting one to carry on Shabbat in the places
included in the Eiruv. A barn. cattle fold, storage house etc. have a
certain Halachic status [Halacha = Jewish Law DSM] regarding carrying on
Shabbat as they are not completely included in the Eiruv. A "fold of
cattle" is a Halachic term used for all houses in the district not
inhabited or inhabited by anyone who did not take part in the Eiruv Jew
or non-Jew alike, which have not participated in the Eiruv and have the
Halachic status termed as "A cattle fold". E.S.
[Jews are not permitted to carry things outside of their homes on the
Sabbath. An "eruv" or "eiruv" can be constructed to effectively extend
the limits of the home to include other areas.] David S. Maddison
CLAIM
"All vows, oaths, promises, engagements, and swearing, which, beginning
this very day or reconciliation till the next day of reconciliation, we
intend to vow, promise, swear, and bind ourselves to fulfill, we repent
beforehand; let them be illegalized, acquitted, annihilated, abolished,
valueless, unimportant. Our vows shall be no vows, and our oaths no
oaths at all." - Schulchan Aruch, Edit. I, 136. (The Jewish Kol Nidre
["All Vows"] Oath has been set to a morbid Jewish music, and is often
heard on the radio.
It is sung as a chant at each Yom Kippur [Jewish New Year] service
[September17].)
RESPONSE
This too is a famous misunderstanding as it states clearly that the
annulment of vows applies only to personal vows i.e. "I will not eat
apples any more" etc. The Halacha (ibid.) states explicitly that they do
not apply to business vows, vows in a court of law, or any other vow
concerning a second or third party. E.S.
Apart from the above, a further error of fact is that Yom Kippur is not
the Jewish New Year, nor does it occur on the same date every year.
David S. Maddison
CLAIM
"Everything a Jew needs for his church ritual no goy (gentile DSM) is
permitted to manufacture, but only a Jew, because this must be
manufactured by human beings and the Jew is not permitted to consider
the goyim as human beings." - Schulchan Aruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32,
33, 39. Talmud Jebomoth 61.
RESPONSE
These sources relate to the law stating that anyone who is not obligated
to keep a certain religious law may not produce the ritual article, i.e.
a Jewish woman or Jewish child may not spin Tzitzis, or write Teffillin
etc. this includes gentiles in most circumstances as they are not
obligated to perform these deeds. Nevertheless, this law applies only to
certain ritual articles not too the vast majority which may be
manufactured by gentiles, i.e. a gentile may sew the Tzitzis garment. A
gentile may even spin Tzitzith thread if a Jew is present to verify that
the gentile had in mind to spin it for the ritual use see ibid, chapter
11. A gentile may build a synagogue, exterior and interior, he may build
the Holy Ark, the Bima, the Torah scoll dressing etc. E.S.
CLAIM
"A Jewish mid-wife is not only permitted but she is compelled to help a
Jewish mother on Saturday (Jewish Sabbath) and when so doing to do
anything which otherwise would desecrate the Saturday. But it is
forbidden to help a non-Jewish woman even if it should be possible to
help her without desecrating the Saturday, because she is to be
considered only as an animal."- Schulchan Aruch, Orach Chaim 330.
RESPONSE
On the contrary it states clearly that the Shabbat may be desecrated to
help a non-Jewish woman giving birth. E.S.
CLAIM
"At the time of the Cholhamoed the transaction of any kind of business
is forbidden. But it is permitted to cheat a goy, because cheating of
goyim at any time pleases the Lord."- Chulchan Aruch, Orach Chaim 539.
RESPONSE
Nothing of the sort is found there. The passage deals with various types
of business transactions that are forbidden or permissible on the
"intermediate days" of festivals. Some of the references are to
transactions with gentiles (who are not bound by the prohibitions);
e.g., it is permitted to collect a debt from a gentile on the
half-holidays. Nowhere does it say anything about cheating. From Usenet
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CLAIM
"The Jews are strictly forbidden to cheat their brothers and it is
considered cheating already if one-sixth of the value has been taken
away from him. Whoever has cheated his brother has to return it to him.
Naturally all that only holds the Jew, to cheat a goy he is permitted
and he is not permitted to return to him what he cheated him out of.
Because the Bible says: 'Thou shalt not cheat thy next brother,' but the
non-Jews are not our brethren, but as mentioned above, worse than dogs."
- Aruch Choszen Hamiszpat 227.
RESPONSE
There is no such statement in the Bible or anywhere else. A Jew may not
cheat a non-Jew exactly as he may not cheat a Jew see ibid. 348:2. E.S.
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