-Caveat Lector- "[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Bob wrote: > > This is, quite literally, blaming the victim. The kinds of crime the New > Century people are talking about are generally motivated by greed, poverty, > drug addiction, or some combination thereof. Hate crimes are motivated by fear > and power...or perhaps fear of losing power. Being robbed at gunpoint may be > frightening, but "it's only money," and you can always make more of that. The > black man who was dragged to death in Texas because he was black can hardly > get his life back. It doesn't surprise me that the Washington Times should > publish this tripe; it fits their agenda very neatly. > > Bob > > Please; > Bestowing victim status and justifying criminal acts in the same breath is > not a good plan. When the criminal (your victim) is apprehended he simply > yells "RACIST!" and here we are. Your opinion that I should not mind being > robbed at gunpoint is not comforting. I worked for that money and I don't > understand why you are allowed to decide whether the person stealing it > should be punished. Perhaps you are volunteering to compensate the victims of > crime? > > PNEALE1 > First, I'm not justifying criminal acts. I HAVE been robbed at gunpoint; I was paraphrasing the robber. What he actually said was, "Look at it this way, I've got the money [all of $25.00] and you've got your life." I'm not saying that he shouldn't be punished...I resented losing that money, and I do believe that crime victims should be compensated, by the perpetrators or society or both. (The question of why such crimes are committed in the first place, and why certain groups, such as black males, are more likely to be crime victims, needs to be threshed out, perhaps in another thread.) YOU and the Washington Times are the ones who are equating property crime and hate crime. Property CAN be replaced...life cannot. Crimes motivated by hate must be classed as more serious than those motivated by greed. Granted, the effect may be the same, but the motive and *mens rea*, the state of mind, must be considered aggravating factors, making the hate crime far more serious than the mere property crime. The thrust of the Times article, it seems to me, is to justify hate crimes because the victims of the hate crimes have committed property crimes against the individuals who turn around and kill *them* because of their race or ethnicity or sexual orientation. And THAT argument cannot be defended. Bob ================================= Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
