You know, the computerization of marketing happened YEARS ago. The databases
are amazing, and they are down to house level, not just zip codes.

When Lotus came out with a marketing database over ten years ago, they just
quietly stopped advertising it, cause folks were amazed at the info and
thought it was intrusive.

Om
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Amazon.com Lists What's Selling Where
                  Privacy Concerns Spur Opt-Out Option

                  By David Streitfeld
                  Washington Post Staff Writer
                  Friday, August 27, 1999; Page A01 

                  "The Microsoft File: The Secret Case Against Bill Gates" is a 
bestseller among
                  Microsoft employees. At MCI WorldCom, they're buying "The Electronic 
Day
                  Trader." At the Library of Congress, "Gary Null's Ultimate 
Anti-Aging Program" is a
                  hit. And at National Semiconductor, it's not just circuits: "101 
Nights of Grrreat Sex"
                  is on the company's Top 10 list.

                  All of this information is revealed by the online bookseller 
Amazon.com, which has
                  started featuring thousands of individual bestseller lists 
calculated by Zip codes,
                  workplaces and colleges -- wherever its customers are ordering from. 
With a simple
                  mouse click on the company's World Wide Web site, you can peek 
behind the
                  scenes at the books that specific groups are reading as well as the 
compact discs
                  they're listening to and the videos they're watching.

                  Amazon describes it as "fun" and happily announced it in a press 
release last week,
                  which was followed by a number of media reports. Late yesterday, 
however, citing
                  complaints from customers, the company backtracked significantly. 
Customers will
                  now be able to opt out of the data collection by indicating that 
they don't want their
                  purchases included. Companies will also be able to choose not to be 
included.

                  If you work for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. and want to buy 
a copy of the
                  CD "Zoot Suit Riot: The Swingin' Hits of the Cherry Poppin' Daddies" 
-- and
                  apparently many employees there do -- you will no longer have it 
chalked up
                  statistically for all the world to see.

                  The episode underscored again the unique power of Web technology to 
collect in
                  vast detail about the likes, dislikes and buying habits of millions 
of consumers and
                  zoom in on the data in ways unprecedented in the annals of marketing.

                  "We're taking chances, we're innovating here," said Amazon spokesman 
Paul
                  Capelli. "This program is building community and adding a unique 
feature that never
                  could have existed before the Internet."

                  The chief executive of the trade group to which Amazon belongs, the 
American
                  Booksellers Association, had a different view. "This is outrageous," 
said Avin Mark
                  Domnitz. "One of the things that people are afraid of with computers 
is that they are
                  so powerful, and they collect extraordinary amounts of information 
about
                  individuals. We could create an environment where people are afraid 
to go online."

                  Domnitz's remarks were echoed by leading independent booksellers, 
who already
                  were not among Amazon's great fans. "It's just one more step along 
the road to a
                  complete loss of privacy for consumers," said Bill Petrocelli of 
Book Passage in
                  Corte Madera, Calif.

                  Andy Ross of Cody's, a large Berkeley store, said: "It's like 1984 
has arrived. What
                  people are reading, thinking about, the ideas they're working with, 
should be
                  completely confidential, but with Amazon they're not."

                  No one interviewed yesterday was particularly bothered by Amazon 
compiling lists
                  by individual Zip codes -- that's just a more specific version of 
the national and
                  regional lists that have been a feature of the book trade for 
decades. Their concern
                  was over the hundreds of lists specific to individual corporations, 
colleges and
                  universities, and a sprinkling of nonprofit groups and government 
institutions.

                  "You can't say there isn't a privacy invasion here," said Robert 
Biggerstaff of the
                  National Association Mandating Equitable Databases, a consumer 
group. "It's not
                  traced back to the individual, but they are invading the privacy of 
the company.

                  "It's unfair to the company to identify their employees as having 
these particular
                  reading tastes, and it's risky for the employee, who might be buying 
a book that
                  causes them to receive scrutiny from their employer," Biggerstaff 
added.

                  Sophisticated software that remembers and correlates specific 
customer information
                  -- such as Zip code, e-mail address, subjects searched for, 
purchases for oneself and
                  others, essentially every move you make on a Web site -- is what 
permits Amazon
                  and other Internet companies to engage in what is known as "data 
mining."

                  The Internet commerce industry generally sees it as the road to 
greater
                  personalization in marketing -- in the interest of both buyer and 
seller. 

                  Amazon said its point in publishing the lists, besides "fun," is to 
help consumers
                  buy more books and tapes. "If you realize that everyone around you 
is buying a
                  certain book or CD, you might think, 'Maybe I'll get this too,' " 
said Capelli.

                  Or, he added, if your niece is going to New York University and you 
didn't know
                  what book to give her, you could look at the list of NYU bestsellers 
and get her, say,
                  "Mergers, Acquisitions and Corporate Restructurings."

                  Critics, though, see it as the road to trouble. "We have to be 
extremely concerned
                  where this is going to lead," said Judith Krug, director of the 
Office for Intellectual
                  Freedom of the American Library Association.

                  Donna Hoffman, co-director of the electronic-commerce center at 
Vanderbilt
                  University, agreed: "It could get pretty scary, depending on where 
you live, work
                  and go to school. These lists might begin to define interests most 
people would
                  prefer to keep private," such as, for instance, sexual tastes.

                  The Amazon program, called Purchase Circles, is "a clever tool, but 
it has very dark
                  privacy implications," Hoffman said. "If I come up with better tools 
to attract you to
                  my Web site, I can learn more about you. The more I can personalize 
my site for you,
                  the more I can customize my offering, the more interesting it will 
be to you. Amazon
                  is showing the power of mining the database."

                  Mining the database of its 10 million customers is where many 
observers believe
                  Amazon is headed. Since it's so easy to compare prices on the Web, 
many consumer
                  goods are sold near or at cost. Instead of making a profit, 
e-commerce companies are
                  concentrating on serving as many customers as possible. The money, 
they believe,
                  will come later, when the they can be full-service destinations for 
all shopping
                  needs.

                  Amazon just reworked its Web site so customers looking for new books 
by an
                  particular author are also told what is available by him at the 
firm's auction site. If
                  you order a dog-care book, they try to sell you pet food. Want a 
videotape of "Gone
                  With the Wind"? Sure, but did you know it was a novel, too?

                  The possibilities are infinite, and so is the amount of money that 
can be made. It's
                  why Amazon, which has never made a profit and shows no sign of doing 
so in the
                  immediate future, is a Wall Street darling.

                  How happily consumers will come along for the ride is still 
undecided. "Amazon is
                  really pushing the envelope here," said Vanderbilt's Hoffman. "It 
would be hard to
                  find a consumer that didn't think this new idea was cute and 
entertaining. But
                  consumers are also going to say, 'I didn't know they were doing that 
with my data. I
                  didn't even know I gave them permission to do that.' This raises the 
awareness of
                  the privacy issue much higher."

                  Whether Amazon intended to do that is another matter.

                  "One of the big question marks surrounding electronic commerce is 
privacy, and the
                  lack of confidence that many potential customers have about 
transacting [business]
                  online," said David Sobel, general counsel of the Electronic Privacy 
Information
                  Center.

                  "It doesn't seem like a good business decision to do something that 
highlights your
                  collection of customer profiles," he added. "It throws fuel on the 
fire."

                  Amazon's change of heart may help to quell some of the privacy 
fears, but it also
                  rendered the bestseller lists largely useless, because readers will 
never know what
                  percentage of book buyers at a company or college opted out. Amazon 
spokesman
                  Capelli conceded that the surveys are "not scientifically valid."

                  Many of the books, CDs and videotapes that are popular at a company 
or institution
                  are the same ones that everyone else is buying. But some reveal the 
particular
                  characteristics or tastes of the groups involved.

                  For example, while the impeachment of President Clinton might be a 
receding
                  memory everywhere else in America, Senate staffers are still buying 
Chief Justice
                  William H. Rehnquist's "Grand Inquests: The Historic Impeachments of 
Justice
                  Samuel Chase and President Andrew Johnson." At No. 5, it's 
outselling Bob
                  Woodward's "Shadow," a much more recent political book that is a 
much bigger
                  seller nationally.

                  Similarly, it might come as a surprise to some that the most popular 
musician among
                  customers from the military is ethereal neo-pagan singer Loreena 
McKennitt, whose
                  CDs hold the No. 1 and No. 3 spots.

                  Companies and institutions contacted about their Amazon bestseller 
lists declined
                  to comment. The exception was National Semiconductor, where 
spokesman Bill
                  Callahan said the popularity of a sex manual didn't mean it was a 
particularly
                  swinging company.

                  "I've noticed nothing, and I've been here 15 years," said Callahan. 
"This has always
                  seemed like a pretty typical run-of-the-mill high-tech company." 

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