-Caveat Lector- POSTED APFN MESSAGE BOARD: [apfn] Waco's Little Rock connection + Clinton's Waco Connection http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb77532 Waco's Little Rock connection By Joseph Farah World Net Daily. Sept 3 1999 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_btl/19990903_xcbtl_wacos_litt.shtml Finally, there's some finger-pointing going on in the executive branch of the federal government over the exterminations of more than 70 men, women and children at the Branch Davidian church in Waco in 1993. It's about time. This is progress. But we won't be any closer to holding the guilty accountable until the White House connections are fully explored. There's ample reason to believe Bill Clinton was working behind the scenes on engineering the initial Waco raid even before he became president. One of the original witnesses against the Branch Davidians was Bill Buford, the agent in charge of the Little Rock, Ark., branch of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Buford was, also, according to Arkansas sources, a friend of Bill. The Waco case was apparently very important to Buford as an affidavit states he was working on New Year's Day calling former Branch Davidians seeking to find evidence of sexual abuse. My friend and colleague, Andy Beal, who first explored the Little Rock connection to Waco, asks a good question: What was the resident agent in charge of the Little Rock office of the BATF doing investigating a sex abuse case in Texas? Is ex abuse BATF's jurisdiction? Is Texas under the jurisdiction of the BATF's Arkansas office? Documents show Buford is noted as one of two "senior raid planners." He was also one of the BATF agents wounded during the Feb. 28 assault, but he is perhaps the only BATF agent to be visited in the hospital by none other than top Treasury Department official Roger Altman. Altman was the long-time "Friend of Bill" appointed to be deputy secretary of the Treasury and chief executive officer of the Resolution Trust Corporation. He resigned in August 1994 due to his interference in the Whitewater investigation. At the time of the Waco raid, Roger Altman was the second highest-ranking official at the Department of the Treasury. The BATF is a bureau within the Treasury Department. Is it not possible -- is it not likely, knowing what we know about the character of the Clinton administration today -- that the Clinton transition team was involved in the planning of the initial raid on Waco even before taking power? Remember, Vincent Foster's wife claimed he blamed himself for the deaths in Waco. Webster Hubbell, who became the point man between the Justice Department and White House during the siege, was also instrumental in that transition to power. Then there's Altman and Buford. Foster, Hubbell, Altman and Buford were all in Little Rock leading up to the inauguration. Clinton takes power Jan. 20, 1993. One month later, the BATF stages the largest and most dramatic raid in its history -- videotaped in living color in anticipation of its success in subduing religious non-conformists in possession of illegal guns. The injustice and illegality of the initial raid has still never been fully examined. Today the focus is on how and why the remaining occupants of the church building were exterminated in a fire. Yet, the equally puzzling question of why a dynamic and violent entry was necessary to serve a search warrant on David Koresh shortly after he went target shooting with officers of the BATF. The local sheriff offered to serve the warrant at the general store to avoid any confrontation. There was simply no need for all the deadly theatrics of the initial raid. The only reasonable explanation seems to be the one proffered by the documentary, "Waco: Rules of Engagement," which postulates that the raid was intended as a public relations effort by the BATF and a commercial for stricter gun control enforcement. There are many unanswered questions when it comes to Waco. But maybe now it's time to start asking some of the unasked questions. What was the involvement in Waco planning of key Clinton White House officials even before they took power? Was the Waco raid, in fact, cooked up as a publicity and political stunt by an incoming administration itching for drama and action? Is it possible that Clinton and his cronies bear even more responsibility than any of us imagine for this deadly escapade? A daily radio broadcast adaptation of Joseph Farah's commentaries can be heard at http://www.ktkz.com/ _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "THE CLINTON CONNECTION" Justice Department investigation should target UT campus http://net.cs.utexas.edu/users/boyer/fp/texan-970317.html Clayton Vernon TEXAN COLUMNIST According to The New York Times, former UT System Regents Chairman Bernard Rapoport hired Webster Hubbell for a joint venture with the Riady family in Indonesia during the brief time before Hubbell's federal imprisonment. This shocker should end naive beliefs that the cozy and profitable relationships between the individuals who ran this system and Indonesian interests was above-board. Whitewater prosecutor Kenneth Starr is investigating these and other enormous payments, totaling $400,000, to determine if they were "hush money" related in any way to Hubbell's decision to not cooperate with federal investigators. Appearances of impropriety include frequent visits to Hubbell in prison by the Clintons' close personal friends, to remind him the Clintons still "cared." The Lippo Group, an Indonesian conglomerate run by the Riadys, helped introduce since-disgraced fund-raiser John Huang to the Clinton administration, which later endorsed Rapoport's $2 billion Chinese real-estate project. Rapoport's public service to Texas served his private interests well. Clinton has claimed ignorance of these "indefensible" payments from his good friends and his best friend. We can no longer deny the coinciding of Rapoport's sudden interest in hiring Hubbell as his lawyer, and the large consulting compensation paid to UT System Chancellor William Cunningham by Jim Bob Moffett and Freeport-McMoRan -- a large and controversial corporate presence in Indonesia. We now expect the Justice Department's investigation to shift south, to the Democratic Leadership Council. This group was co-founded by Sen. John Breaux of Louisiana, who helped Moffett intimidate our faculty last year. This cozy relationship suggests our system administration lacks integrity. This sad possibility is supported by other events. Last year, we lost a "whistle-blower" lawsuit in which a plaintiff alleged the University deliberately undercollected royalties from oil and gas producers with ties to administrators. Now there are allegations of administrators being forced to contribute to the DNC. [APFN: Cause of Ron Browns death) Students, faculty and staff are completely unaware of the alleged sleazy machinations. Perhaps our traditional reliance on the Democratic Party's support of higher education has left us vulnerable to its recent indiscretions. Perhaps UT President Robert Berdahl had some of these consideration in mind when he accepted the chancellorship at Cal-Berkeley. Berdahl is a man of principle, he may have felt totally out of place within the highest levels of the UT System. 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Romans 8:31b IT IS THE LAW: "Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a legal or moral duty to speak, or when an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading... We cannot condone this shocking conduct... If this is the case we hope our message is clear. This sort of decption will not be torerated and if this is routine it should be corrected immediately" U.S. v. Twell 550 F2d 297, 299-300 APFN CAN HELP YOU TO HELP APFN GLOBAL HEALTH! http://www.ghtonline.com/reps.pl?5087 "In a age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell NETWORKERS FORWARD: 10+10+10+10+10 = "WE WIN" "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams POSTMARKED AUSTIN TEXAS, JULY 9, 1993 REGION FIVE REPORT. VOL #5 ISUE #5 PAGE 8 INTEL PAGE ABOUT APRIL 19TH... On April 19th, 1993 eighty Branch Davidians lives were systematically eliminated to preclude the investigation of mistakes, bumbling, gross negligence, stupidity, and the intent of the BATF attack. Here is basically how things went down early that morning: 12 MIDNIGHT) Authorized from Washington to terminate the situation received final authorization, Janet Reno approves the action to be Taken. 0330 HOURS) Two HART penetration teams enter the compound main building upon determining activity within the site is at a minimum, listening Devices planted during previous penetrations provide this data. [APFN: LISTENING DEVICES INSIDE MILK CARTONS] 0400 HOURS) the HART units have located all the occupants and eliminate No less than four BD sentries including one in the tower, via silenced 9mm weapons (9mm 147 grain subsonic bullets were used) all were clean Head shots as trained. 0500 HOURS) incendiary DEVICES ARE PLANTED IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS, ALL TIMED TO IGNITE AT 1150 HOURS. 0600 to 0630 HOURS) The engineering vehicles start their destruction of the compound. The BD's panic their sentries had not alerted them (they were dead), upon locating the dead sentries, the five BD's encounter on HART unit, a small shoot ensures with two BD's killed. This not being planned the HART team withdraws, as the BD's retreat to the center of the building. This was originally thought to be BD's firing on the engineering vehicles, such was not the case. As David Koresh attempts to consolidate and regain control of the situation, the remaining HART unit kills him with a clean shot to the forehead... slightly to the right of the center line. The BD's are essentially leaderless from this point with the few remaining "mighty men" trying to coordinate some resistance. 0700 HOURS) The effects of the gas are taking their toll, messages are waved on banners from windows in the tower to re-establish the telephone line. Two of those raising that banner are shot, their bodies found later around the tower rubble. The BD's unable to maintain control the situation withdraw to the center of the building, knowing, the doomed they start to pray for guidance, 0800 HOURS) No results from the CS2 teargas seem to be evident, the FBI order the engineering vehicles to flood the compound further and with additional force to deeper building penetration. The results gain deeper penetration but in doing so they flood the building with propellant used to push the CS2 gas. The propellant is propaine, realizing this, order are given to remove the ends of the building to disperse the propane. The remaining HART penetration has been trapped between the BD's and the fallen derbies the might explode and surely the HART unit. 0900-1000 HOURS) The propane has been cleared to some extant, additional CS-2 teargas is ordered in. Again being unfamiliar with the driver system of the gas, propane is reintroduced for a second time. However winds are now up to 25 MPH allowing for it to disperse or collect in dead air pockets though out the building. 1100 HOURS) The BD's are now succumbing to the gas, the children are showing signs of distress and being chemically burned.. The Israeli gas mask they have are falling, their filters clogged and unable to filter additional gas. No one has thought to distribute extra filters. They are confused, nauseated, burring from the Teargas, disoriented. Still pray for guidance, their leaders are dead. 1130 HOURS) The FBI realizing their penetration team has run out of time, the can not get to the children, the team can't get to the incendiary devices to put them off. The FBI orders the engineer vehicles to tear a hold in the area of the penetration team the response is too late. 1143-1150 HOURS) As the engineers vehicle attempts to extract the HART team, several of the team members attempt to disarm of the closer incendiary devices however it goes off prematurely, this is observed and reported to an FBI observation teams. The HART team barely manages to escape, as the other devices go off. 1200 HOURS) The fire is well established in several areas, the propane propellant accelerates the process, trapping the BD's with rivers of flaming propane gas near the communications room as they attempt a futile effort to reestablish a phone link. 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