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From: William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] WACO- THE BIG QUESTION


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>In a message dated 9/3/99 10:35:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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><<you seem to be so quick to condem, why is this are you afraid your
>government can not stand up to an
>open door investigation?
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>Quick to condemn?? How many years has it been since the Waco barbecue??
>Not quick to condemn here...
>I think the government ought to be scrutinized at every possible
>oppourtunity, but that doesn't make Waco a legitimate "conspiracy"...
>And what was Koresh's reason for not allowing an "open-door investigation"?
>Had he complied, and been so clean, he'd have been vindicated....

yes it has been 6 years since then and it is only now that the facts are coming
out and are being viewed in daylight.
the only reason that we are getting it now is because of the judge on the civil
action.  how is it possible for both the FBI, Justice Department, investigations
by congress, and still not produce a small fraction of the information that will
be released.  so since we dont even have the all the facts yet, how can you
belive what the media and all the representives of the government side?  since
they have lied to us in such a small way for so long, what other lies have not
been discovered?  since the credibility is important to law enforcement, who can
trust anything that they have said and are saying?  if we should trust what they
say, then what do we base this trust on?   can we trust them when they are
willing to lie about small things; can we not assume that they wont also lie
about the larger things?

so when you have accepted the view that Koresh was a pediophile, you are also
accepting everything that they say and any explainations that they are needing
to make if need be.  so on what do you base your trust in the government?

if they had allowed the open door investigation, then they would have been
assumed guity and had to prove thier innocence.  last time i looked, that goes
against the concept of innocent until proven guity.  why should he have to prove
his innocence?  not to mention that by allowing the search there could have been
the possible violation of the 5th admendment.  once you allow the system to gain
a power and the ability to exercise it, it is just a matter of time before the
power will be used and once used it would be very difficult to take that power
and ability away from that agency.  so i hope you can see why there is such
concern over this minor issue at Waco.  it's just that the Waco stiuation is a
major turning point for our country.  if this turns out as bad as i expect it to
be, and we allow it to go unanswered, then the America that i was born and
raised in wil no longer exsist at this time.  so excuse me if i am passionate
about this issue.  it is the big picture that is important.

with this having been six years ago, what other operations have gone on with
little or no reporting due to the assurances of the government that it was of
little importance?  btw did you know that one of the components of CS gas is
Cyanide?  pretty strong tear gas, you think?  with the concentrations that must
have been hell on those kids.

with prayers of only the best for all that are involve in what is and will
happen.
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